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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 17:10:57 GMT -5
I have been following that menu for Princess. She seems to be doing fine. The only time she actually eats the bone is if I grind it up in the grinder. Sophie is not taking soup at all, and Wolf has been refusing sometimes.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2017 3:14:01 GMT -5
I have been following that menu for Princess. She seems to be doing fine. The only time she actually eats the bone is if I grind it up in the grinder. Sophie is not taking soup at all, and Wolf has been refusing sometimes. Alright using that menu can you put in the types of proteins you are feeding her? For example: Monday am: frog legs Monday pm: chicken necks Tuesday am: chicken hearts Tuesday pm: chicken wings Etc So with Sophie let's go back to how you are feeding her before when she was accepting it. Unless that has changed. Wolf goes from eating from the spoon to refusing the soup?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2017 23:27:36 GMT -5
OK. Wolf occasionally refuses it. Sophie has refused it totally on the first get or spoon. I will do the menu next week. I am going to be out of town until Monday evening, so I won't be able to lost until I get back home. My house sitter has the recipe for the soup and will let me know how much they eat, and has the menu for Princess.
For this weekend: Princess FRIDAY Am ground chuck PM chicken breasts boneless Saturday Am veal heart and liver Pm chicken Wings Sunday Am beef stew meat Pm From Legs MONDAY AM KIDNEY
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Post by katt on Feb 11, 2017 2:13:57 GMT -5
OK. Wolf occasionally refuses it. Sophie has refused it totally on the first get or spoon. I will do the menu next week. I am going to be out of town until Monday evening, so I won't be able to lost until I get back home. My house sitter has the recipe for the soup and will let me know how much they eat, and has the menu for Princess. You are doing a GREAT job. It can be very frustrating working with stubborn ferrets, and often it is two steps forward, one step back. They key is persistence and patience - as long as YOU remain determined, they WILL be switched. Keep it up and you WILL get there!! When you get back from the weekend, let's take a big breath in, and try a similar but slightly new approach. Start fresh! Sometimes when dealing with the stubborn ones (and you have two!) it gets stressful, and they can feel your stress. This makes the process even MORE frustrating and can create a vicious cycle. So, dust off, take a deep breath, and let's try anew on Monday. Monday afternoon when you get home, remove the kibble for 2-3 hours for Wolf and Sophie. If you can get them to run around and play (aka burn off some extra calories and build up an appetite) during those few hours that would be great. Then sit down on the floor with a bowl of soupies. Every 2-3min, pick one of them up (alternate between Sophie and Wolf so there's about 5min between for each of them individually), and use your finger to dab some soup on their nose/lips. When you do so say GOOD BOY/GIRL super excited like you are giving them the most awesome treat in the world. If they willingly lick if off - GREAT, but if they don't, or even if they shake their heads and throw a fit - DON'T STRESS IT. Just pick one up, dab some soup (while being excited), and set them back down. Do this for as long as the 3 of you can tolerate it. If you can shoot for about an hour that would be awesome. Then, take a break for the night. Whether or not they willingly licked the soup that day doesn't matter - we are simply introducing them to the taste from "square 1" so to speak. The goal on Monday is to have a nice session of "Grab N' Dab." Whether or not they willingly lick the soup Monday doesn't matter - one step at a time. Success will be simply doing the Grab N Dab session. Celebrate that session and then don't stress over it the rest of the night. Let us know how it goes, and I hope you have a nice, relaxing weekend! :beer:
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2017 0:33:23 GMT -5
Thank you Katt. I got back late tonight. So I will do this tomorrow. While I was gone, Wolf ate 1/2 oz of soupies one time during the day(Saturday and Sunday) , the sitter only tried once, which I guess a try is better than nothing. Sophie refused each time. Princess' meals were all portioned out for the weekend so all he had to do was defrost the meat and cut it up for her.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2017 0:35:59 GMT -5
Also, did you only want me to Dab for Wolf since he will eat it when he wants to? Or just to teach him that when I give him meat it is time to eat and do the dab thing anyways?
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Post by katt on Feb 14, 2017 3:00:49 GMT -5
How about Grab N Dab with Sophie, and offer Wolf some of his own. He recognizes it is food at this point, he just would prefer to hold out for his kibbles some days. lol Ferrets are brats like that. As long as he keeps at least periodically eating it for now we can skip the dabbing for him. Remind me - are Sophie and Wolf caged together?
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Post by katt on Feb 14, 2017 20:28:27 GMT -5
Checking in to see how it went/goes tonight. Remember the goal is just to DO the Grab N Dab session.
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Post by katt on Feb 15, 2017 21:44:40 GMT -5
How did it go?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2017 0:25:01 GMT -5
It went horribly for Sophie. I only could do it once for Sophie and she wiped her face on the carpet and ran away. She is so picky, and I actually notice when I try to feed her raw she hides more of the day. Wolf I actually got to eat slivers of meat, but by hand. He refuses to eat from a dish for meat. He took the little pieces and ran away and ate them(we watched to make sure he didn't just put it somewhere) and then he came back for more Yes, they are both in a double Ferret Nation cage together and always sleep together.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2017 0:28:05 GMT -5
Sophie has always had her own little personality. She is very independent. She will play with us for a little bit and let us hold her occasionally, but otherwise she is always doing her own thing. She has a vet check up on Tuesday morning. I totally forgot to weigh them, so I will do that tomorrow, but their poops and activity level are normally to them.
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Post by katt on Feb 16, 2017 2:58:54 GMT -5
That's good that Wolf took some slivers! As for Sophie, wiping her face is the reaction I expect. Raw is still yucky to her. When she does that you have to keep dabbing. That's why the goal is to dab her once every 5min or so for at least 20-30min. Pick up, dab, set down, wait, repeat. I would try doing it in the bathroom so she can't run off very far and any mess is easy to clean up. It is very common for ferrets to be strong willed and stubborn - she is a normal ferret. The KEY is to outstubborning her. Right now she's learned if she runs off, you'll stop trying to feed her "that icky stuff." Ferrets are very smart and will get away with anything if allowed. They are like spoiled, manipulative, furrry, adorable toddlers. Tomorrow sit down with her and KEEP dabbing her for at least 20min. There is a method to the madness, so stick with it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2017 12:05:34 GMT -5
Alright, Sophie and I will have a date with the bathroom. Lol. Also, I put 7 slivers of chicken in the cage last night(along with Kibble) and 5 of them were gone thus morning!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2017 12:09:26 GMT -5
Also, I just put some more slivers in their cage while they are still in there. Total of 9. We will see where it is at in 2 hours when they come out for the dayy
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2017 16:06:37 GMT -5
Sophie 1 lb 14 oz Wolf 2 lb 3 oz
Haven't had my bathroom date with Sophie yet. Will do in a couple hours as she just ate.
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