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Post by miamiferret2 on Jun 23, 2014 12:00:34 GMT -5
Of course!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2014 0:08:39 GMT -5
Thank you Sonny's mom! Long, stressful day today so I will do this tomorrow. Bella's poor little eye. She went in for the des implant today. Asked the vet about the melatonin implant and we might do that next week. Bella also had a mast cell tumor removed from her eye area. Not too close to her eye but it seemed to be getting a bit larger, according to the vets measurements and I thought it had too, so she surgically removed it today, while there was still healthy tissue in between her eyelid area and the tumor area. She is doing fine but I am never happy when things like this occur. I am sad she has to go through it. I wonder how much pain she is in, although she seems fine. She is separate from Clyde for a day or two because he tends to groom her head/neck area a lot and we out them together for 2 minutes so he would know she was back, and he immediately started licking around her eye area and around the implant area. So they can be apart for a day or so. Don't want the eye area getting infected. When she came home, she could not wait to eat her raw food. She stared and stared until I have it to her (my dinner had to wait of course) and then she ate all of her dinner and Clyde's portion too!) She was so hungry. She loves the raw so much! So I am beat. Spent half the night staring at her while she slept, making sure she wasn't in any pain or needed anything. Need sleep soon. Thanks for everything!
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Post by miamiferret2 on Jun 25, 2014 19:15:24 GMT -5
Oh no! Poor wee thing. Hope it does not come back. Try reishi. Either Host Defense or New Chapter Organics (lifeshield). Many have used it to treat and prevent MCT's. 1/4 capsule per day.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2014 0:17:21 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2014 0:57:56 GMT -5
And I'm also thinking of ordering from hare today.
Ground Rabbit organs, since it has 50% liver, 25% heart and 25% kidney, is that something I can feed them?
Ground Duck/Rabbit/Pork with /Bones/Organs, Coarse Ground - I think they can handle this size pieces so would this be a good idea or should I still stick with the regular ground, as it is smaller. They are eating good size chunks now and chewing on it, mostly.
So if I were to feed pork, turkey/chicken, and duck/rabbit, is that enough of a variety? Also, is all poultry fairly clumped as one, like if you only feed turkey, chicken, cornish hen and quail, that's not enough variety correct?
I can't even begin to tell you how much more they seem to like the pork than chicken or turkey.
I still haven't tracked down kidney but I'm going to the butcher this weekend, if i can get off work.
Not ferret related but raw related. Dehydrated Bison Heart, is that the same as FDR? Or is dehydrated different. I was looking to get this a a dog snack. The family dog is getting much more into raw snacks, which I think is great for her. She's not really mine so I don't think she'll ever go full raw but I snack her a lot with the FDR.
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Post by miamiferret2 on Jun 29, 2014 17:25:04 GMT -5
i prefer the Host Defense if you cannot find the New Chapter Organics Lifeshield Reishi.
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Post by miamiferret2 on Jun 29, 2014 17:26:14 GMT -5
i prefer that you did not use Primal. they use too much produce. for ferrets, any commercial raw grind should be no more than 5% plant/vegetable matter. must be 95% meat/bones/organs.
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Post by miamiferret2 on Jun 29, 2014 17:28:45 GMT -5
frozen or freeze dried Stella & Chewys is fine to use. I use both the canine and feline versions. However, do not use any of the venison, rabbit or pheasant. too much produce/vegetable matter in those. the rest are find to use. i see that stella & chewys now makes a feline frozen rabbit version. that one is 98% meat/bones/organs so the feline frozen rabbit is good.
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Post by miamiferret2 on Jun 29, 2014 17:32:51 GMT -5
I would skip the bravo treats. only bravo i would use are the actual raw grinds that they sell for dogs. the ones with the ground bone, organs, etc. Bravo Balance may be one you can use. before you try the Bravo with the ferrets, i would email the company and make sure that the Bravo balance grinds are at least 95% meat/bone/organs.
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Post by miamiferret2 on Jun 29, 2014 17:33:39 GMT -5
with the duck feet, you can probably just find those fresh at any asian markets.
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Post by miamiferret2 on Jun 29, 2014 17:38:53 GMT -5
And I'm also thinking of ordering from hare today. Ground Rabbit organs, since it has 50% liver, 25% heart and 25% kidney, is that something I can feed them? Ground Duck/Rabbit/Pork with /Bones/Organs, Coarse Ground - I think they can handle this size pieces so would this be a good idea or should I still stick with the regular ground, as it is smaller. They are eating good size chunks now and chewing on it, mostly. So if I were to feed pork, turkey/chicken, and duck/rabbit, is that enough of a variety? Also, is all poultry fairly clumped as one, like if you only feed turkey, chicken, cornish hen and quail, that's not enough variety correct? I can't even begin to tell you how much more they seem to like the pork than chicken or turkey. I still haven't tracked down kidney but I'm going to the butcher this weekend, if i can get off work. Not ferret related but raw related. Dehydrated Bison Heart, is that the same as FDR? Or is dehydrated different. I was looking to get this a a dog snack. The family dog is getting much more into raw snacks, which I think is great for her. She's not really mine so I don't think she'll ever go full raw but I snack her a lot with the FDR. if you buy the whole grinds that is better because they grind up whole carcass and you get all the organs in it. if you buy a grind with just organs, you can feed for 1 meal a week as a supplement. but, pointless if you are feeding commercial grinds that already have ground liver, etc. you may be over doing it with the liver if you go and buy the organ grinds. chicken, turkey, and quail would be considered 3 different proteins. i do like to use at least 1 red meat (either lamb or beef). I was reading into the cornish game hen when i had my last mentee and it was pretty much decided that a cornish game hen is just a juvenile chicken. so i would consider CGH and chicken to be one and the same. i think that maybe the dehydration process would affect taurine. taurine is very temperamental. best to feed fresh raw hearts (or tongue) for taurine. pork is ok to feed once or twice a week but too much and ferrets tend to get fat. make sure the pork is not seasoned or smoked, marinated, etc.
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Post by miamiferret2 on Jun 29, 2014 17:39:31 GMT -5
sorry i did not respond sooner btw. i had internet issues.
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Post by miamiferret2 on Jun 29, 2014 17:40:11 GMT -5
it is impossible for me to post on the forum from my phone (i use my phone for facebook). so if you ever need to reach me in a hurry send me a message on facebook and I will log onto the forum from a regular computer.
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Post by miamiferret2 on Jun 29, 2014 17:40:40 GMT -5
did i leave any of your questions unanswered? i tried to do them one at a time. i hope i got everything.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2014 12:19:28 GMT -5
Ok so this is the one I am getting: www.amazon.com/Fungi-Perfecti-Defense-Reishi-Capsules/dp/B002WIVHKU/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1404406827&sr=8-2&keywords=new+chapter+reishiGood thinking on the Primal then. I did look at the ingredients and find that there was an awful lot of fruits/veg/starch listed, even low down on the list. Ok Primal OUT. OK, Stella and Chewy, feline or canine is fine, except no venison, pheasant and rabbit. But the frozen rabbit is ok...I couldn't find a link to that one. Can you show me which one it is? On the Bravo treats, can I ask why you don't like them? Especially the buffalo bites....they don't seem to have anything extra in them...not true, it says cheddar cheese....is that why? The Bravo balance grinds, they actually list this as ingredients: Ingredients: Chicken, chicken bones, chicken liver, chicken gizzards, chicken hearts, green beans, broccoli, acorn squash, salt, potassium chloride, tocopherol vitamin E, zinc oxide,copper sulfate, ferrous sulfate, manganous oxide, potassium iodide, cholecalciferol vitamin D3 Is that too much 'other'? Fresh duck feet, yes I am sure i've seen those at the market. So if I get the hare today grinds with the whole carcass, I don't need to worry about feeding separate organs? That would be complete? Ok I am glad you told me that chicken and turkey are considered different. I just thought poultry is poultry. And I will add lamb instead of beef for a red meat. I just don't want to chance Bella getting sick again. With the pork, I buy like ribs or cut a piece off of what we are having, before it is marinated. Thanks so much, you are really helping me figure out how to get the diet balanced. Trying another chicken wing tonight for dinner. Can I smash up some bone pieces pretty small and add to their soup type meal? I was afraid small shards might be dangerous and that leaving them bigger is safer. I wanted to cut up small some bone but I guess the powder would be sufficient for that?
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