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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2014 18:41:22 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2014 20:36:41 GMT -5
She must have loved being held like that... (giggle)
Honestly, she looks fine to me. She is a delicate little girl, but she looks healthy. I'm going to ask the Senior Mentors to Look at your pictures and see what they think. Maybe they can suggest something to add a little weight, but I think you will just have to wait (weight, pun intended) for her winter coat to fatten her up.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2014 20:52:56 GMT -5
She's kind of a ragdoll. When I hold her she mostly goes limp. I'm glad she looks okay D: I literally stuffed her with two oz of organ soup/egg mixture this AM. I cant believe I persuaded her to eat that much. Her poopies have been insane though O.O I'm glad I gave her some egg though because she has been hacking and I saw some hair in her poop. Yay shedding
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2014 11:43:29 GMT -5
The general consensus among the Senior Mentors, is that she looks healthy and is not too thin. That was a good idea with the egg and should help her, with all the shedding. Are you still grooming her with the flea comb? That will help some. Any signs of fleas?
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Post by Heather on Jul 6, 2014 12:59:17 GMT -5
I'm sorry for intruding but I thought I should also mention that your ferret is in awesome shape. She's of good weight and really doesn't need to put on any weight. Unfortunately, we have a tendency to want fat ferrets (the teddy bear effect, I think ) Do not worry, she's in really good shape and I would not put any weight on her. You've found the perfect balance for her body type ciao
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2014 13:03:54 GMT -5
Yes I brush and comb her all the time she's pretty fed up with me. There arent any fleas on her right now because I gave her a bath as soon as we got to mclains and we threw her bed into the washer . I didnt want to risk bringing fleas into his house since he has two cats and carpet. Unfortunately I think theyre all in my room. I have some flea bites on my ankles. Im going to lock her in the bathroom and do all my laundry as soon as I get home so hopefully I can kill them all.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2014 17:29:01 GMT -5
Thanks Heather, it helps to hear from someone so experienced. @muchasbellas, maybe you could pick up some regular flea powder for the carpet. Spread it all around and then take Evanna over to Mclain's for a few hours. After you get home, leave Evanna outside of your room and Vacuum super good, then vacuum again. Give it another half hour or so and then let her back into the room. Fleas are so darn hard to get rid of. If the flea powder idea is not a good one, someone overseeing this thread, will pop in and let me know. If you're seeing flea bites on your ankles, its time for some heavy duty warfare.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2014 23:10:55 GMT -5
I actually only have a small rug by my desk in my room. I'm pretty sure its the fortress of blankets and pillows on my bed that has all the hidden eggs and stuff. And thanks so much Heather sorry I didnt see your post when I replied. I just got nervous because I could kind of see her hipbones. Also the only other ferret she's been around is Alyse's Ezra and he makes her look like a dwarf in comparison. I think theyre flea bites anyways. I sort of walk around barefoot everywhere so its possible I walked through an itchy plant or got chiggers. So I had a playdate with Alyse today! We let the ferrets romp and also put in an order to HT. I got duck hearts, a rabbit, 2 cavies, some ground whole goat, 8 whole quail, and dehydrated ground rabbit. She also kindly gave me a couple mice and some ground lamb. I also have fully decided after seeing how much fun Evanna had today that I will definitely be getting her a friend when I move. I've never seen her that excited Dont worry I'll put the video and pics up in a little, but theyre already on FB. Could you help me make a menu with some whole prey incorporated? Since I have some complete meals like the mice and whole ground stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2014 17:06:42 GMT -5
Well. the Time has finally come: i'm posting your test tonight and wll check answers in the morning. After you answer the questons, please post a menu. Then i will submt this for approval and you wll graduate. Good Luck, i know you wll do fine. {Please excuse any missing i's. Paul's computer has lost them}. 1. what are some good emergency sources of Taurine? 2. Does freezing degrade Taurine? 3. How long should meat stay out: Raw Soup Ground meat Med large chunks Bone in Whole prey 4. What can you give for harballs and how often? 5. You see Evanna pawing at her mouth. What are some causes? 6. What defines a nutr1tonal organ meat? 7. What 1s the average amount a female ferret wll eat? What 1s the average amount a male wll eat? Do they eat more n the spr1ng or w1nter? 8. 1s there any reason to gve ferrets m1lk? 9. Descrbe the blockage protocol. 10. What are some good, healthy treats? You have done so well, and i am very proud of you and Evanna. Always remember that i will be here for you. Good Luck on your test and please post a Menu. i will check your answers in the morning and forward your Menu to Heather for Approval.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2014 17:29:00 GMT -5
1. Tongue, dark meats, and a taurine supplement 2.NO 3. soup- 6-8 hours ground- 8-12 chunks- 24 hours bone in- 24 hours whole prey- up to 48 hours 4. You can give one egg per ferret once a week to help with hairballs 5. Pawing at the mouth is usually a symptom of insulinoma 6. A nutritional organ meat is any secreting organ: liver, spleen, pancreas, kindeys, etc. 7. The average female will usually eat 2 oz a day and a male will eat 4 oz. They eat more in the winter unless they have their seasons reversed. 8. No, ferrets are lactose intolerant and milk can give them terrible tummy pains and diarrhea. 9. 1 tbsp of canned pumpkin (not pie filling) in an hour follow with 1 tsp of vaseline alternate these until big orange poos are seen. 10. Good treats are freeze dried or dehydrated raw as well as pieces of their favorite uncooked and unseasoned meats. Evanna sometimes gets a piece of raw chicken skin to munch on.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2014 17:34:43 GMT -5
Menu: (I added some whole prey ) whole prey is italicized (am/pm) Monday:guinea pig/guinea pigTuesdayWhole ground goat/duck hearts Wednesdayrabbit/rabbitThursdayorgan soup (25%chicken heart, 75% beef kidney/chicken liver mix)/CGH Fridayquail/quailSaturdayChicken wings/Turkey neck Sundaybone in turkey/ pork meat chunks
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2014 8:32:17 GMT -5
1. Tongue, dark meats, and a taurine supplement 2.NO 3. soup- 6-8 hours ground- 8-12 chunks- 24 hours bone in- 24 hours whole prey- up to 48 hours 4. You can give one egg per ferret once a week to help with hairballs 5. Pawing at the mouth is usually a symptom of insulinoma 6. A nutritional organ meat is any secreting organ: liver, spleen, pancreas, kindeys, etc. 7. The average female will usually eat 2 oz a day and a male will eat 4 oz. They eat more in the winter unless they have their seasons reversed. 8. No, ferrets are lactose intolerant and milk can give them terrible tummy pains and diarrhea. 9. 1 tbsp of canned pumpkin (not pie filling) in an hour follow with 1 tsp of vaseline alternate these until big orange poos are seen. 10. Good treats are freeze dried or dehydrated raw as well as pieces of their favorite uncooked and unseasoned meats. Evanna sometimes gets a piece of raw chicken skin to munch on. 1. Correct. (dance) 2. Correct. Heat however does. :thumbsup: 3. Mostly correct: raw soup And ground meat are 6-8 hours. Large chunks up to 12 hours. Bone whole prey are 24 hours. Agree 4. Correct 5. Mostly Correct. 1t could also mean dental 1ssues or nausea (nod) 6. Correct (dance) 7. Correct (dance) 8. Correct (dance) 9. Correct (dance) 10. Very Good and Correct. You can also consder ch1cks and p1nk1es as a good treat. Wonderful. You certan1ly passed th1s test w1th Flyng Colors. 1 w1ll submt your menu for approval. After Heather gets back to us, ! wll off1c1ally graduate (gee who knew there were so many "eyes" n words) 1 do want to pass on one word of 1nfo on Organs, that Katt passed on to me :"2 ounces a week" is a saying that needs to be abolished and that I am in the process of fighting to have permanently removed from the advice repertoire. That is based on the AVERAGE consumption of ferrets per day and is NOT at all accurate. The rule is and always has been 10%. Take for example 2 different ferrets, let's say a tiny little female and a large male. The female we will say eats 1 ounce of food a DAY, and the male eats 4 ounces a day. They need 10% organ a week (half liver, half other - so 5% liver, and 5% other organs). The female, eating 1oz a day, gets 7oz of food a week, so now you give her her weekly 2oz of liver...well do the math. That comes to almost 30% of her total intake! That is THREE TIMES the amount of organ she should be consuming. Now the male is eating 4oz a day, coming to 28oz a week, and you give him his weekly 2oz of liver...well that only ends up being 7% of his total diet - so now he is deficient in organ meat... See what I mean? This is why the meal method works much better. WHATEVER method you use, it should always come out to 10% organ (half liver, half other organs). If you are feeding 2 meals a day (a meal being food eaten in 24 hours), that's 14 meals a week. 10% is going to be just under a meal and a half. Every day they will eat a little more or less (just like us, their appetite fluctuates), but if they are always getting 1.5 meals a week of organs, then you know that they will always balance out to 10% organ in their diet. Same thing applies for heart, but if you go over on heart it's not a big deal - better too much taurine than too little. !am so proud of you. ! wll m1ss our da1ly chats, but 1 w1ll always be here for you and Evanna. Thank you for makng my very f!rst Mentor/Mentee exper1nce such a pleasure.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2014 10:13:04 GMT -5
That makes sense This has been a super awesome experience! I'm so glad that I got you as my mentor. Don't worry I'll still see you around on the forum and FB. Oh and I gave evanna some tough love yesterday. She did not want to eat her mouse. SO I cleared out her stash and left her only the mouse and she ate a little not like a ton, but enough to make a smallish poopie. YAY
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Post by Heather on Jul 10, 2014 15:24:58 GMT -5
Sorry, looked at that yesterday and was going to post this but got distracted by watching wee meepers eating rats... Congratulations :beer: You've graduated and you're ready to walk this path alone, now . You have the foundation to help you feed your fuzzes in a more natural and healthy manner. Please remember that your learning never stops, and dietary needs change from ferret to ferret and throughout each their lives. I would like you to be aware that though you now have the capability and the knowledge to create your little ones diets you are never alone and that your mentor (you need only pm) is always available to you. The list is also a very good resource and you should always be aware that it's available to answer any questions you may have either about diet or care. Good luck, in a few days either Sherry or I will lock down this thread and place it in the archives but be aware that you can always look through it as a reference tool but you just will not be able to post to it. Your mentor will be in to congratulate you shortly :thankyou: ciao
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2014 16:18:06 GMT -5
Congratulat1ons! @muchasbellas, you are a lovely young woman, smart and sweet and a wonderful ferrent to our Angel Evanna. 1t has been a pleasure and an honor to help you thru th1s sw1tch. 1 w1ll always be here for you and Evanna, and your soon to be new add1t1on Kovu. All my Best W1shes, Stephan1e
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