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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2013 13:26:47 GMT -5
I wouldn't worry too much unless loki starts biting him pretty hard. They have tough skin, especially on their scruffs and it takes a good deal to break skin- heck, my vet could barely get a needle through the skin on some of my boys. Ferrets will fight a lot, but unless someone is bleeding/fear pooping/constantly running away I'd let them duke it out. Kits will scream at everything by the way to get out of trouble they started.  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2013 13:37:30 GMT -5
Okay that's good to know... They both were off the wall for almost three hours today... Then they just crashed lol
Loki today has eaten some venison, cgh breast w/bone in, he tends to like the bones... It's really odd, he also likes the dogs bully sticks lol, he's kinda like the dog.
Doomie is eating a lot! It's great now he goes into the cage to get food and everything.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2013 16:15:11 GMT -5
Sounds like he was being stubborn then, that's good.
I'm guessing the bully sticks are raw, right? Raw hide's not good for any animal that I know of.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2013 18:05:42 GMT -5
Oh, they aren't completely raw... They are exceedingly hard to get that way ;D they are about the safest chew that he can't get through in minutes they are dehydrated bull penis, the ones we get are cold smoked, and yeah rawhides are a no no, the pig ears we give are raw though. I caught Loki going in circles around the couch with one as long as he was, I also found a stash under the couch where two of them were... I would be amazed if he actually chewed anything off of them lol
I forgot to ask about the mice... If I was to feed small mice live... I'm afraid of toying, how do you know if your animal will even make a kill? Is it just hope? And if he doesn't than end it quickly for them? Do you feed freshly killed mice for a while first so that they are positive that this is food?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2013 23:08:49 GMT -5
Smoked is generally not good for ferrets to eat at least.
I'd try offering him dead mice first to see if he'll eat it. I'm sure he'll love a live mouse- as a great toy at the very least. The problem is, there's no real way of knowing if an individual ferret is a clean killer or not and if they have the instinct for it. You're welcome to try, just be ready to put the mouse out of its misery quickly if he botches the job or tortures the thing. A lot of people set the ferret loose in a bath tub with the mouse.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2013 23:45:00 GMT -5
Okay, I'll only let him chew on the dehydrated not smoked.  I'm prepared to kill it if he messes it up. He acts like he has the "killer instinct" he even wanted to fight the vacuum when we turned it on to see if doomie was deaf, brush roller was off of course ;D I'll try a frozen one sometime this week, we have to drive a bit to civilization so we don't go often but I'll get one. How big should I get? Pinkies seem too small, his meals are usually about 2-3 ounces 2-4 times a day... Should I get him acquainted with the bathtub before d-day? I don't want him more interested in it than the mouse I suppose... |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2013 8:18:11 GMT -5
Pinkes are fine to feed as a treat.
Maybe a younger/smaller feeder mouse since he's just a baby himself, don't want him trying to tangle with a large adult that's not intimidated by his wee size yet. I'd let them get used to the bath tub a bit beforehand as some of my guys tend to just wardance in it for a while...
I've also got some of what I call "vacuum cleaner warriors" who will charge it fearlessly. Especially my alpha of the group. He tackles the bloody thing and tries to bite it and drag away the hose.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2013 10:20:14 GMT -5
lol vacuum cleaner warriors ;D thats him... it scared him then he came back dooking and fighting...
last night doomie ate kibble of course, he's eating what seems to be normally, so much poop lol! i think his waste per day is as much as my 60lb bully...
And, Loki he ate a chicken heart, and gizzard, with a wing tip last night, i think he ate the whole gizzard, i haven't checked all of his bedding though so he might have stashed it... he made a weird noise at me last night when i was in his cage while he was eating, it sounded like a pterodactyl? is this hissing? like urine off im eating kinda thing? Hes been doing it frequently when he's chasing down doom sometimes he'll make it, even when we were hand wrestling.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2013 11:08:16 GMT -5
Yup, hissing is a common ferret sound that can have varied meanings depending on the circumstances. When it comes to food, it's usually a warning to back off, that's mine!, usually I only get it between ferrets, never at me. But I can see it happening. Hissing can occur as ferrets squabble over toys. Artemis was terrible as a kit for that, hogging all of the toys. Hissing can be for fun, when two ferrets are wrestling and chasing one another. Some ferrets hiss instead of dook. And finally, hissing can be heard if a ferret is frightened, perhaps as a warning to the intruder.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2013 2:22:33 GMT -5
I apologize for not having responded, or written yesterday, i got a little scatterbrained i thought i had, but to no avail... anyways... Loki for breakfast/lunch had pork fat chunks, probably 1" wide, by 2-3" long he does pretty good tearing it and cutting it down now. for dinner he had a chicken wing tip, and a chicken neck+fat/skin... For midnight snackies he has pork muscle meat. Dr. Von Doom... he had marshals  I have a question about stool consistency... how consistent are their poops on raw, frankenprey style... i mean with a grind they are normally getting a consistent bone/organ/muscle mix, but with frankenprey he kinda picks and chooses when/how much/what he eats from what i give him, and what he has stashed... much like my dog, i'm not going to see every poo the same, with my dog it's a bit easier to make it that way, but with loki for instance, i give him a sliver of heart and a wing tip... he eats the wing tip then is finished for an hour or so... he poops, then eats the heart sliver... then he poops a few hours later and it's more loose, not terribly loose, he doesn't have cannon but, but darker and looser than say his bony meals, are they just constantly changing because of the frequency of their meals, and the speed at which they digest? We feed the dog once a day, sometimes a gorge meal every other day if he doesn't eat on a day or something so his stools are usually pretty consistent, but with the weasel eating 4-5 meals a day it is more inconsistent? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2013 8:17:21 GMT -5
You pretty much hit the nail on the head. If they're eating frakenprey and ignoring things in a meal then yes, their stool will be inconsistent. Organs make stools very runny, bone keeps it firm. So long as they are not chronically runny or runny for a long period they should be fine. You can try offering him a bone tid bit with every meal to eat if he chooses to see if it helps the consistency. They generally need 8-9 bone meals a week anyway, and if he's not eating that much bone willingly he either needs egg shell, bone meal, or a grind. If you prefer to grind your food, you can feed him ground- just make sure he gets plenty of RMB still for his dental hygiene.
Also you could try and start stealthily mixing a little raw into the doom nuggets if you haven't yet. You're feeding him the softened, mashed kibble along with the dry right? Maybe add some raw to the soupy.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2013 10:02:47 GMT -5
okay glad i'm not crazy lol, he LOVES the bones... i think that is my favorite thing about this weasel, he has no qualms eating anything meat that is put in front of him!  he gets some bone every day, either wing tips, or cgh parts, he gets plenty of fat as well, and he gets 2-3 small heart meals for the week too HE LOVES heart too.. he got into the dining room yesterday and was trying to steal Tobi's venison heart (while Tobi was eating of course) he tried with all his might to hang on but Tobi decided he was eating that piece, he just kinda stretched his head up till the weasel fell off and gobbled it up lol! ( he's never been a resource guarder, even our foster we took in would take food out of his mouth, he's just a nice boy, otherwise i wouldn't let the weasel around it) It was cute! Doomie is still on antibiotics, we are going back to the vet to have his panels done again once they are finished, i think another 3-4 days, The vet requested we waited till the antibiotics were finished and we could get another panel done to see if he was still anemic by just keeping him on the marshals food, or anything he would gobble in large quantities like he should... he's already almost eaten a large box of the food, and it hasn't even been a week... hopefully the anemia clears, would it be okay if we started stealth soup after that? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2013 14:49:43 GMT -5
Yeah that sounds fine, your vet seems to know what he's talking about (More so than a lot of vets around here anyway) so I'd listen to him. Marshall's is largely indigestible filler, so it's no surprise he has to eat so much of it to grow, or that he's leaving it all in the litter box. They barely poop at all on a frakenprey diet when they're older.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2013 16:26:22 GMT -5
okay, i just wanted to make sure, he does seem knowledgeable he was joking that he was surprised that he wasn't chasing him all over the room being bit/hissed at and cleaning poop out of his corners  he must see Lokis kind often lol! We are having chicken soup, so loki is getting the neck from the chicken, there isn't much skin on it, he'll also get a few slivers of liver, and a gizzard. I'm so proud of that little weasel, i thought he was going to be much tougher to transition lol. oh, i found a worm, and he wasn't sure what i was trying to feed him, i got some weird looks... |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2013 17:40:48 GMT -5
Babies are usually easy to switch because they're so hungry, I've never had any problem switching them when they're that young. A worm as in an earthworm kinda worm?
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