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Post by katt on Mar 12, 2011 12:52:45 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2011 13:02:06 GMT -5
I agree with Katt. Babies are definitely worth the mayhem they cause
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Post by whipple on Mar 12, 2011 13:56:30 GMT -5
I agree Katt! I've never had a baby until Vixen and it's incredible! I do love the older guys, but she is going to get older. She's so attached and she knows how to respond and what to expect from us. She totally trusts us and I trust her. (Even though at the pet store they said she's a biter, pfft!) I love ze babies!
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Post by dookdook on Mar 13, 2011 19:15:49 GMT -5
I've had one Marshall fuzz and now own two real canadian ferrets.. NEVER AGAIN. I am in LOOVVEE with the real canadian fuzzes! :3
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2011 7:36:47 GMT -5
This thread is bad encouragement for me . But seriously, I brought Paulie home as a kit and one thing everyone (vets, boyfriend, family) remarks is how bonded he is to me. He looks for me in strange places, runs to me at the vet even though he knows I took him there, is willing to sleep for long drives because he knows I'll take him somewhere exciting. It is very cool.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2011 10:41:13 GMT -5
Pixie and I have a similar bond - she is my soul ferret.
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Post by kainslie1 on Mar 14, 2011 13:27:29 GMT -5
The reason I don't mind this one as much is their policy on any animal you buy being ill. They'll put up to the purchase price of the animal toward the vet bills if it's a genetic problem, or even if it's something like ear mite treatment. And considering what they actually charge(and GET!) for dogs here, that's one heck of a chunk of change. Who told you that? And you are talking about the Westhills one right? Because I bought a dog that had parvo, and they made us sign something saying that we know this dog is sick - and any bills going on about this illness is NOT covered by them, because we knowingly bought a sick dog.
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Post by Sherry on Mar 14, 2011 13:38:36 GMT -5
Yes, I am. If you buy an animal there, and subsequently discover it has an undiagnosed illness, the cost of the animal will go to the vet for treatment. You have to take said animal into their vet for a once over within the first 10 days. I'm assuming they were going to put the dog down, which is why you bought him? Because if they knowingly sold a very sick puppy, the spca and likely the city can step in, as long as you still have all that paperwork.
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Post by Heather on Mar 14, 2011 15:53:20 GMT -5
You signed a waver. There is nothing short of going to court is going to get a reinbursement or your vet cost back. As soon as you take a rescue out of a pet store and sign their waver....you've bought all the trouble along with that pet. That waver basically states that you are aware that animal is sick yet bought it anyway. I've done a few of those. Talked to vets about them too. Sometimes that waver can actually nullify the marshals 1 yr guarantee too. Found that out with Nicodemus. Unfortunately, doing rescue is indeed noble but it comes with huge costs attached. You can fight this but chances are even in a court of law you will loose (there's a reason why that waver was created by the franchise store) and if you loose then you're responsible for both your legal costs and theirs (there's a reason why people don't usually fight that waver) ciao
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Post by kainslie1 on Mar 14, 2011 16:39:23 GMT -5
Yeah, The whole litter was getting euthinized because no one wants a sick dog. So my mom bought chloe.
I also have asked about other dogs there and more than once they were willingly going to sell me a dog with parvo, gardia, and coccidia (all different dogs)
My one friend works there and there was an outbreak of distemper, and a few animals had to be put down. (this was a few years ago)
I know heather, I'm just saying that what sherry said didn't apply to us.
and also, there was another health like wavier in the folder that we recieved, and I think this is for 'healthy' animals.. but they only cover things for 6 moths or 1 year... which, many animals don't even show signs of hip dysplasia for example, until older, so unless you get a full check of the animal and not just a one over like very usually do - petland wont cover it.
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Post by Heather on Mar 14, 2011 17:12:33 GMT -5
You cannot certify against bad hips (so usually can't certify positive except in extreme cases) until the dog is 2 yrs of age, for giant breeds sometimes later. There are two types of xrays, one is better than the other. Not to give any one trouble, we all have our do's and do not's. I will not under any shape or form buy a dog or a cat (I'm not talking about the shelter animals that some stores bring in and find homes for) from a pet store. I understand buying ferrets, birds even rodents...never a dog or a cat. It's so much easier to buy them from more reliable sources, to see where they are, where they've come from. Even BYBs are often better than the stuff that runs through the stress of the mills. This is JMO, that's all ciao
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2011 17:28:39 GMT -5
You cannot certify against bad hips (so usually can't certify positive except in extreme cases) until the dog is 2 yrs of age, for giant breeds sometimes later. There are two types of xrays, one is better than the other. Not to give any one trouble, we all have our do's and do not's. I will not under any shape or form buy a dog or a cat (I'm not talking about the shelter animals that some stores bring in and find homes for) from a pet store. I understand buying ferrets, birds even rodents...never a dog or a cat. It's so much easier to buy them from more reliable sources, to see where they are, where they've come from. Even BYBs are often better than the stuff that runs through the stress of the mills. This is JMO, that's all ciao I completely agree with you, Heather. Sometimes the only way you can get ferrets, birds, or rodents are from pet shops, though I don't like it one bit. Mass-breeders usually produce an animal who will have health problems later, but when I start my mice-breeding program, where will I have to start? Probably the pet store, unless the two reputable breeders in the states are willing to ship for $300, and for an untried breeder it's not likely. I have in the past struggled about purchasing a kit from a pet shop. My only option besides PetCo is a local pet shop that will order Marshall's, and sells BYB and mill-produced puppies and kittens. The thing that angers me the most are the kittens, because cats are considered disposable by the general public more so than dogs. There are far more cats in shelters and living homeless on the street from when people move and leave them behind. How can I support that kind of dismissive mentality of the facts?
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Post by kainslie1 on Mar 15, 2011 14:23:19 GMT -5
"You cannot certify against bad hips (so usually can't certify positive except in extreme cases) until the dog is 2 yrs of age, for giant breeds sometimes later. "
No, but you can check the parents, and a reputable breeder will only breed good hips, ect. I was just saying hip dysplasia as an example.
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Post by joan on Mar 15, 2011 14:53:15 GMT -5
A reputable breeder will replace a pup who develops hip dysplasia or any other later developing condition which precludes the dog living a normal life.
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Post by Heather on Mar 15, 2011 19:15:06 GMT -5
That is entirely true Joan. I've always found this particular replacement clause difficult to deal with It's a personal thing and nothing to do with the contract. I've had it written into a couple of my dog's contracts. It is a standard replacement clause that most breeders use. I was in the position to actually call it in with my Alaskan Malamute, it had nothing to do with displasia but with renal failure. My Malamute was 5 at the time, a specials champion. The breeder and I had a good relationship and I can fault her for nothing. I had phoned her to tell her that my boy was in emerg and in renal failure and it didn't appear that he would fully recover (wish I knew then what I know now ). She offered to replace my boy. Sounds good...in theory. The deal....I send my boy down to her and I get a brand new puppy from her next litter, his brother's litter. I'm a sucker I couldn't do it. I loved my boy, terminally ill or not. I couldn't bring myself to send him to a stranger to die. He lived for another 2 yrs. I didn't get a puppy. ciao
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