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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2011 16:39:37 GMT -5
How much organ is in the wysong archetype? What organs does it have?
Also, I'd look into getting Stella and Chewys freeze dried which is a bit cheaper than wysong is. If I remember correctly, last time I bought it the price was $25 for 16 oz.
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Post by cubsfanhaynes on Sept 1, 2011 18:27:30 GMT -5
Heart and liver for sure. I know of a pet store in town that sells Stella & Cheweys. I'll check that out this weekend.
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Post by corrij on Sept 1, 2011 18:57:57 GMT -5
Would one meal (or day of two meals) of the freeze dried be enough to cover organ needs?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2011 19:36:03 GMT -5
No I don't think freeze dried would be able to replace the organ. Freeze dried is usually 5-10% organ meat. So unless you fed it solely, it won't hit the % you need a week.
Also, heart isn't an organ - it's a muscle meat. So the % is probably less.
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Post by corrij on Sept 1, 2011 20:13:42 GMT -5
Steven and I have been wondering. Is the organ necessary just for their taurine needs or is there something else they get from the organs?
Like I think I remember it being liver people can get vitamin C from.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2011 22:09:02 GMT -5
Heart (which isn't an organ in terms of diet) is mainly added for taurine (but there are other nutrients that it contains to balance out the diet). It's rich in CoQ10, different inorganic compounds like zinc. Organs are full of different enzymes, secretions, hormones, etc necessary for a well balanced diet and proper health. Liver also is a huge source of vitamin A which is critical to a ferret It is also high in Vitamin C. The goal is to feed as close to whole prey as possible.
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Post by corrij on Sept 3, 2011 10:26:45 GMT -5
We are still here. Babydoll is doing good on the chicken and the turkey. Gonna pick up some pork tomorrow and some liver for sure. Still looking around for a place to buy hearts from. Will check the price on calf brains as well see if it's in our price range.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2011 11:33:46 GMT -5
Sounds good. For speciality items like brains I am always willing to pay a bit more because you don't need a lot of it per week. Unlike other meats it's only 5% of the diet
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Post by cubsfanhaynes on Sept 4, 2011 15:20:23 GMT -5
I think we're going to have trouble finding much more than chicken liver. That is cheap though we bought a little over a pound for $1.50 today. That's what we'll be using as organ meals until I can find something else.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2011 18:32:30 GMT -5
Any luck with heart? Any kind will do. If not, you'll have to get a taurine supplement (just plain powdered taurine to add to the food.)
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Post by cubsfanhaynes on Sept 4, 2011 23:04:40 GMT -5
We have a taurine pill we're going to powder and add to the organ meal until we can find a local butcher to get us a heart, otherwise we have to rely on my step-father for venison heart every year during deer season.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2011 23:09:34 GMT -5
Okay, good on the taurine pill. I'll get some dosing for you. You cannot really overdo taurine, any excess is excreted in the urine. But no reason to waste a bunch
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2011 23:13:09 GMT -5
Also, if you have a butcher at your grocery store, ask if they ever carry chicken hearts. I found some at my store for the first time (I've always looked) a couple weeks ago.
Also, I think Walmart carries veal or beef heart in the freezers by the meat section. I think it's around where they have the frozen Cornish game hen.
Also, your babies are probably eating a ton now, and it will probably continue through winter. You have new switches that are young and nearing winter time. That means lots of eating ;D once they're on raw longer and after winter passes, you'll find they eat a lot less and your costs should go down.
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Post by cubsfanhaynes on Sept 5, 2011 19:55:59 GMT -5
That's cool. I'm less worried about cost and more concerned with getting them what they need :-)
I bought a few frozen fuzzy mice to try out as treats. Any suggestions in the vein of making them interested?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2011 21:42:51 GMT -5
Hmm. You could try blending them up and see how that goes. You could try it chopped up and mixed in with other meats they like. You could just slice them open and pour some oil on them.
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