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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2012 12:19:44 GMT -5
oh, I wish it was that cheap now! Its so expensive! The vet I went to last time charged £5.40 for the jab and £16.50 for the consultation! And all he did was pick her up, inject her and put her down, all in the space of 2 minutes! I considered asking why they charge so much for the 'consultation' but my Mum had told me not to be cheeky, ahaha! So plus the VAT it cost me £26.35, which really is a lot of money. Although I asked the vet who I was planning on taking Bear to how much they charge for the jabs but they haven't got back to me about it yet.
I'm still a bit unsure about the vasectomy, I'm worried that i'll spend £80 and that his tubes will just heal and it will all be a waste of money. Plus, i'm not quite sure how old he is because I bought him when he was fully grown. Missy is the eldest (that I know of) and she is 5 in June! (gosh, how time flies haha!) so I think Bear could be about the same age maybe a bit older so i'm just a bit worried about him and any possible risks there could be considering his age. I think i'll have to ring the vet and talk to her I guess.
Thanks, Lydia
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2012 13:47:16 GMT -5
Well I just got a message from the vets about the jill jab and they're charging £40!!!!! I think that includes the consultation fee but my gosh!! I'll definitely be staying with my current vet when it comes to jill jabs!! I left her another message asking about the chances of a vasectomy healing and about the risks of operating on an older ferret so i'l let you know what she says. Lydia
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Post by crazylady on Jan 10, 2012 16:45:59 GMT -5
Hi lydia ask them if they send the parts of the tubes they remove to the lab for testing ( they often remove part then clamp the remaining tube in two places as a sort of safety net ) at 5 he is in the prime of his life ! I have had vasectomies done on older ferrets with no problems if they take a good lump of tube it will take a lot for it to grow back again lol ( never has on my guys ) take care bye for now Bev
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2012 13:39:04 GMT -5
Hi Bev, Thanks, they replied but told me I needed to either ring them or book an appointment to go and see the vet so i'm going to have to try and find time to do that :/ but i'll be sure to ask about the tubes. And I have to say he is in good condition haha he loves to play 'pin u down' and he always does the little weasel war dance and just completely goes off his head :')
Lydia
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2012 14:36:37 GMT -5
Just an update, Bear has been booked in for his vasectomy on Tuesday morning Thanks for all your responses Lydia : )
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2012 15:16:46 GMT -5
Wishing bear lots of luck! Keep us posted
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Post by Heather on Jan 20, 2012 16:41:30 GMT -5
Good luck...I will light a healing candle for Bear on Tues. Give the wee boy a big hug. Tell him it's worth it. All the fun and none of the responsibilities ;D ;D ciao
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Post by crazylady on Jan 20, 2012 17:34:38 GMT -5
good luck just remember keep him away from the ladies for at least 8-10 weeks lol take care bye for now Bev
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Post by Sherry on Jan 20, 2012 23:34:54 GMT -5
Good luck We'll be thinking of both you and Bear!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2012 14:53:19 GMT -5
Thanks everyone! Will be sure to keep you all posted : )
Lydia
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Post by ferretlove67 on Mar 11, 2012 0:32:03 GMT -5
I have a v-hob. he can't be mated to any female for two months. I do trust it. If the surgery is done correctly, excising a portion of the vas deferens and not just "ligating" which means simply tying off and room for error there, I'd trust it. I think every breeder should have a v-hob. I think separation is best, the "away from in heat female" will trigger him to be more "breeder aggressive in a good way I would assume?" IMO and not cause too much over mating, nor cause him to get "bored", or "used to the living environment." I think it is prudent to have one if considering breeding and that is my opinion, Medication and implants scare me. we don't have enough "safe data" in my own opinion to justify it. Some may disagree but that is what I would do. Done properly, you have a good chance of no unexpected litters ever from a v-hob. The risk is low, just do it during a time the girls are off season as he will need special care to not let him mate before 2 months, as mentioned spermatocytes can survive that long and will die off if given the time. Hope that helps. ultimately your decision and just my opinion.
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Post by Heather on Mar 11, 2012 0:43:49 GMT -5
I"m guessing that your wee "v" hob has just been surgically altered? You breed ferrets? or just keep intact jills? I don't like the lack of information with the DES either, especially for ferrets that are going to be possibly used create kits later. I'm afraid I would like to see more information especially in this case. I've seen a lot of "fixes" and none of them have panned out yet for ferrets. I want to see long term results before I commit to any use of this other than adrenal (which is seems to work very well for) ciao
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Post by ferretlove67 on Mar 11, 2012 1:16:52 GMT -5
I"m guessing that your wee "v" hob has just been surgically altered? You breed ferrets? or just keep intact jills? I don't like the lack of information with the DES either, especially for ferrets that are going to be possibly used create kits later. I'm afraid I would like to see more information especially in this case. I've seen a lot of "fixes" and none of them have panned out yet for ferrets. I want to see long term results before I commit to any use of this other than adrenal (which is seems to work very well for) ciao completely understandable. It is personal decision to have a v-hob. I have intact females. Yes, I can try and shoot an article on it from a database if I can find it again. I am not saying that it can't be effective, just avoiding it is what I would personally choose. A good vet with know how to dissect the portion needed. Perhaps there were some vets that were ligating? this is easier to do. Taking a portion, and cauterizing the proximal terminal end of the vas deferen that have been excised from, would be a good vasectomy. I think the issue lies with , there are many vets and the way they do it. If done by taking a good section appropriately surgically, and using a cautery device rather than any sutures or ligating clips, that increases the price I am sure, but it is most effective that way. Now if done another way. yes I would be more concerned. Its simply an opinion and I would surely discuss the options and how the surgery is performed if original poster goes that route; certainly they can do the other as well. Boils down to how comfortable you feel with the vet etc and each vet is a vet is a vet, no two are ever alike IME It isn't easy I am sure to locate that vet needed with extensive experience. If you can't find one, don't do it that way. Its not worth it, but if you can , IMHO, it can be an advantage/alternative. Personal choice is all. Would I do it again? yes. I am trying to avoid any hormones or anything unnatural as best I can i guess. Sometime you just got to do it too. It never means someone is wrong at all. Just means I have a medical background studying for, and if cauterized and a portion taken from each vas deferens, I can't see a way for anything to grow back is all. It is the same in a lot of species. I can give a bad ex. I had two house cats, one schedule for neuter a while back. other scheduled for spay a month later. Male was ligated. He went right to it and it ended in an emergency situation. Its scary and because the spermatocytes were getting through ligation, he impregnated her that night. That boy had no pain apparently. The male sperm cell was still there and more coming through. It was a hefty lesson learned to ask details before the surgery. it turned out OK but if i had a chance to discuss procedure better, I would have. yes long-term result seeing this would be beneficial. Always question your vet as if as in interview. Human (MD) or pet. Every ferret owner will always have to weigh pro and cons. Their choice and hopefully I would hope you don't keep seeing some "botched IMO" vasectomies.
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Post by ferretlove67 on Mar 11, 2012 1:34:55 GMT -5
p.s. Lydia! I am sure all will be fine! hopefully a success like i have researched. positive thinking and all should pan out as planned, keep us updated!
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Post by nanjferret on Mar 24, 2012 17:08:48 GMT -5
V-hobs can live with the jills year round but it depends on the boy. They act just like they did completely whole and if he buggers her constantly that isn't good. Vasectomies are very time intensive for a vet and hard to differentiate between muscle and the other. A good vet will send the sample to make sure he cut the right thing and will go to great lengths to make sure it does not grow back. I personally like using a vhob as I've had problems with the hormone shots in the past either not working or having more problems with infection.
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