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Post by goingpostal on Jun 20, 2011 15:37:42 GMT -5
Umm, female in heat, HELP?  My ferret vet is out, she'll call me back tomorrow morning. |
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Post by crazylady on Jun 20, 2011 16:28:54 GMT -5
Hi the jill jab is a hormone shot that brings them out of season after five to ten days the vulva shrinks and the jill goes into phantom pregnancy ( this lasts 42 days ) jills can go into season from 6months and on wards ( depends what time of year they were born normally they over winter before there first season ) and they wont come out of season unless there given a jill jab or a visit to a vas hob or get pregnant ( if left in season until fall there prone to eplastic annemia ) hope this helps take care bye for now
Bev aka crazy lady
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Post by Sherry on Jun 20, 2011 19:38:56 GMT -5
Good luck with this little one, and keep us updated? I gather you are going to at least foster, if not take them outright?
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Post by goingpostal on Jun 20, 2011 20:05:37 GMT -5
I'd like to take them, but I've also offered to pay if she will bring the ferret into my vet and get a jill jab. I'm not sure what to do if it doesn't bring her out of heat, with vacations going on and both of us working two jobs, I can't go flying to Duluth several times very easily during the day.
Also the cost is a concern, if I can do the jill jab then a des implant, that would be better price wise, plus she could stay intact, although with an unknown byb background, I don't know if it would help prevent adrenal or not but anyways give me time to save up for a spay.
I still have to talk the vet, and convince James who doesn't want to take a "problem" ferret. Not that he would stop me, but better to have him agreeable to the situation. I want to see if the vet would maybe give some sort of discount for a rescue type situation, or if they would do payment plans, I have spent plenty there, especially in the last couple months. But maybe if nothing else I can help the lady bring her out of heat and get an implant.
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Post by Heather on Jun 20, 2011 21:38:10 GMT -5
She would at least have a better chance against adrenal if you can leave her intact. It would depend if you want to deal with giving her a des implant every year. The longer you can avoid a spay the more likely you can postpone the adrenal. This is not a 100% guarantee but at least you've given her the best chance available. Please keep us posted as to the outcome
ciao
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Post by goingpostal on Jun 21, 2011 9:24:03 GMT -5
Well I haven't heard back about the ferrets. I did talk to my vet and she said a des implant should work to take her out of heat and they have them in stock. She expressed the same thing I did though, is it indeed an intact ferret or just adrenal? I wish I knew if she still had her "poofers", that'd be an easy way to tell I think because I doubt a byb had those removed if they didn't fix them.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2011 9:31:36 GMT -5
That's good to know - it'd be cheaper that way right?
I hope they get back to you - leaving her in heat will become dangerous if something isn't done.
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Post by goingpostal on Jun 21, 2011 13:37:35 GMT -5
Still no word back. And yeah Jackie it'd be a lot cheaper if I could just get her an implant. I might be bringing Pip into the vet next week anyways so I guess if she doesn't get back to me I will contact her and see if they want to bring the ferrets over to my vet or if we can pick them up.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2011 14:30:37 GMT -5
If the jill is in season, she is not just going to come out on her own, she needs to get a jill jab or meet up with a V hob to bring her out of season. Even though its effective, not all jills seem to want to come out of season with a jab either. Like my friends ferret for example, when she comes into season they try the jab, but never seems to work so she got to take her to a V hob. Also even when she does come out of season, she can come back into season shortly after.
Since those owners have no clue what they are doing, if the owners do keep her, once they get out of season she really needs spayed instead of a implant, they are just way too irresponsible to have the intact jill and it would be in her best interest to be spayed before they kill her.
If you do get to adopt her, personally, I'd get her the jill jab to bring her out of season, then after she is out I'd get her spayed. She's from a BYB, she shouldn't be bred anyhow, if you live in a area where the vets are unfamiliar with dealing with intact jills, especially if you dont have easy access to jill jabs (and a V hob you could take her too, in case jab dont work), just too much of a worry and risk to just keep her intact. I'd ultimately just get her spayed, then later a desi.
I've seen some jills that for what ever reason jabs and v hobs didn't work, they just took them in and got them spayed.
Fingers crossed for this jill, hope shes ok!!
And wow that much to get her spayed, thats just crazy! I payed about $150 to get my jill spayed.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2011 14:55:10 GMT -5
I agree if the owners keep her the best option would be a spay. However, if goingpostal adopted her, the longer you can wait to spay her, the better it will be in terms of adrenal disease. If she was never spayed and was on yearly des. implants, I would THINK that she wouldn't get adrenal.
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Post by goingpostal on Jun 21, 2011 17:09:23 GMT -5
So you can spay while in heat and no biggie? Does anyone know specifically what hormones are in a jill jab? My vet said one time previously they had a similar case in the past, where they didn't know if the jill was intact or adrenal and figured they were going in either way and ended up spaying in heat. V-hobs aren't an option, I'd have no idea where to find one. I don't know where the heck this "breeder" found intact ferrets to begin with but obviously they weren't concerned where the kits ended up.
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Post by crazylady on Jun 21, 2011 18:58:06 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2011 0:21:05 GMT -5
Not supposed to spay if already in heat! from what i understand- she will need a hormone shot and then once she comes out - get her spayed ! it can kill her if she is not cared for properly.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2011 0:43:20 GMT -5
Have you heard back from them? Are you planning on adopting them?
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Post by goingpostal on Jun 22, 2011 8:59:00 GMT -5
Haven't heard back Jackie.  I'm probably making an appt. for Pip for Monday and I'm going to ask the vet if they can get that shot when I call because they don't have it on hand, I don't think they've ever had to use it. But if the jill jab doesn't work, what are you supposed to do? Again, no v-hobs around here. And I never got an answer on how long she's been in heat either. |
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I'm probably making an appt. for Pip for Monday and I'm going to ask the vet if they can get that shot when I call because they don't have it on hand, I don't think they've ever had to use it. But if the jill jab doesn't work, what are you supposed to do? Again, no v-hobs around here. And I never got an answer on how long she's been in heat either.