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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2011 0:26:12 GMT -5
Wolfie has been suffering from insulinoma for about 5 months. Recently, about 3 weeks ago, he had a big seizure but luckily we pulled through it. He just now had another seizure but I have caught it early. We gave him the Karo syrup and a few minutes after I thought he was looking better I gave him his raw meal. He ate well and then I put him back in his cage to see if he wanted to sleep and a few minutes later I took him out to give him his medicine. After his medicine, he started drooling more. Then he started going through these mini seizures where he'd be drooling one minute then the next minute he'd be totally fine. We've given him the Karo syrup multiple times. So far, it's been going on about an hour and I don't know what else to do. Our ferret vet is several hours away. I don't know what to do. Can anybody help with this?
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Post by Heather on Jun 16, 2011 0:52:53 GMT -5
I'm so sorry. You need to get this little one to a vet asap. What is the pred dosage that you're giving him right now? and what type of pred
ciao
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2011 1:00:55 GMT -5
The dosage is 0.1cc three times a day. It's a prednisone mixture. The vet is over 2 hours away from where I live and it's midnight here. Wolfie seems to be stabilizing now. Do you know what the vet would do in this situation?
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Post by Heather on Jun 16, 2011 1:09:07 GMT -5
There are some antispasmotics that they might try as well as some other medications for BG stabalization. Sorry, don't have the name at the moment. Some have resorted to using it once the pred no longer works. I believe that he's at his max for pred (though I'm not sure of this) Has your vet talked to you at all about what some of the possibilities might be when you've reached this stage of the disease? My vet and I were discussing this today as I needed to know the next stage for Fun-Go but he still has a higher pred dosage available to him. Ferrets never decide to give you a break as far as the time of day....it's 2 am here so I totally understand:-/.
ciao
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2011 1:49:04 GMT -5
Thank so you for the information, especially this late at night. He slept awhile and then I gave him another raw meal after I saw that he was stabilizing more. My vet told me that he is on a low Prednisone dosage right now so maybe it needs to be increased. I'll talk with him tomorrow and ask about any other meds that might help as well. Again, thank you for your help.
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Post by katt on Jun 16, 2011 2:53:33 GMT -5
Oh no! I am glad he seems to be stabilizing.  I am going to go do some diet research...perhaps pumpkin or something might help keep him a little more stable... ? |
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Post by smallfooties on Jun 16, 2011 5:07:12 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2011 9:05:44 GMT -5
Yeah, luckily I caught it just as it started. I was thinking of using pumpkin but it has natural sugars in it and I don't want him to have any sugar. What I'm thinking is that the vet said that he was doing so well on three times a day that I should lower it to two times a day, he was wrong... I'm going back to three and I think it will help him out  |
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Post by miamiferret2 on Jun 16, 2011 9:17:34 GMT -5
no sugars unless you are having to stop a seizure.
ask your vet to prescribe proglycem (diazoxide) this has to be given with the pred.
proglycem has worked better for my ferrets with insulinoma.
it is commonly prescribed once the pred is no longer working to control the disease.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2011 9:30:19 GMT -5
Yes, sorry, I forgot to add that, I only give him sugar if he is having a seizure. And I will do that, maybe it will help him out. Thank you!
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Post by Sherry on Jun 16, 2011 9:35:46 GMT -5
I am so sorry to hear about your Wolfie. That is such a horrible disease. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2011 10:48:11 GMT -5
Thank you Sherry, Insulinoma is no fun at all  |
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Post by jadewolf on Jun 16, 2011 11:29:14 GMT -5
Ugh, so sorry to hear about this. What is the concentration of your pred, like does it say 2mg/mL or 10 mg/mL? Those are the two most common concentrations. If it's the 10 mg/mL pred, he is on the maximum dose. If it's 2mg/mL, the dose can increase (though you may want to get the higher concentration pred, so you don't have to get such a volume of meds into him). I agree with miamiferret, diazoxide helps once pred is no longer enough. You give it at the same time as the pred. My insulinomic boy is on it and pred.
You did what I do when someone is having BG problems and I cannot get to a vet: feed every 3-4 hours to stabilize BG. As far as I know, there are no safe home emergency meds or anything, just keeping lots of food in to keep the sugar decent. I hope you were able to get to the vet and get diazoxide today.
I'm thinking good thoughts for you and Wolfie. Bear in mind that insulinoma takes an unpredictable course: it could get worse and worse for a while then stop progressing, it could stabilize for a long time then get worse. So it's not a steep downhill, and this is not necessarily a sign that the end is near. It's just that those times when you need to adjust the meds can come up unpredictably.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2011 13:08:04 GMT -5
I'm saying a prayer for Wolfie - hope you can find a solution soon for him
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Post by Heather on Jun 16, 2011 13:36:59 GMT -5
How's he doing?
ciao
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