nannah
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Post by nannah on Sept 26, 2016 17:17:13 GMT -5
Ha, thanks. :')
and no, I checked the supermarkets around me, and I can't find any. :/
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Post by FireAngel on Sept 26, 2016 22:52:47 GMT -5
What are your bone in options? Also since they are doing so well on pork, it is time to add in beef when you can
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Post by nannah on Sept 28, 2016 14:07:49 GMT -5
ok awesome!! we already made some soup because they were completely out of meat, but next time (in like 2 days most likely, haha), we'll add in some beef. we have chicken wings, chicken legs, complete cornish hens, and around Thanksgiving all parts of turkey are available; I can't say turkey necks or ribs are available to me year-round otherwise. However because I'm getting """ more seriously ill""" I'm going to bigger cities including Mama Mayo in Rochester, MN pretty often, where there are plenty specialty S. and E. Asian stores. I can look for quail and other unique cuts there. I'm going there on Friday, so I'll look. I also have an acquaintance who has a chicken farm, so I'm gonna see what I can get from his family. My brother (I'm not close with him, but . . . ) hunts duck a ton, and maybe he'll give me some necks at least. I'll have to check that post about wild game and see about diseases in my area. do you happen to know that post off-hand? I'll give a search around here.
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Post by FireAngel on Sept 29, 2016 21:07:39 GMT -5
I'm sorry to hear that you are still getting sick and not feeling well. As far as wild game is concerned all herbivores are fine to feed after 2 weeks of freezing but there are strains of Trichenella that are resistant to freezing and can still be contagious after thawing, so yes please check to see what you have in your area. If you can get quail or cornish game hen those are great starter bones.
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nannah
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Post by nannah on Sept 30, 2016 21:52:04 GMT -5
ahh, yeah, thanks. :') well, in any case, it was fun to see the city today!
I also did happen to pick up a whole squab and a ton of chicken feet! I wish I'd picked up this gigantic package of either smelt or sardine (wish I'd even checked!), but I remembered something about not feeding fish to ferrets. at home I looked it up and learned you can in fact feed fish to ferrets, just not too much and regretted it! regretted it sooooo much!
so what should the next step be?? (dance)
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Post by FireAngel on Sept 30, 2016 22:05:18 GMT -5
Lets see how they do with bones. Get that Squab chopped up and mix it in with their meal or just give them a wing or leg and see if they take it as is! I give mine sardines once a week.
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nannah
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Post by nannah on Oct 3, 2016 14:06:35 GMT -5
ohhh Misio and Kinga, the little turds. so I gave them some legs and wings, and they didn't want either. they kept circling around them and giving me that "the heck?" look they're so good at. so I chopped some wings up and mixed it with their normal soup (except I added beef into the soup this time like you recommended; no problem here). and they ate around every little bit of wing! what do you suggest I do? just keep at it or?
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Post by FireAngel on Oct 3, 2016 17:08:43 GMT -5
Chop it up and hand feed small pieces. You can also toss a bit of salmon oil on them so they are inclined to at least lick them. So they are doing well with the beef? If so you can use the beef instead of the chicken altogether in the mix. What size are the pieces they are eating now?
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Post by nannah on Oct 3, 2016 21:14:59 GMT -5
well I was in for a surprise! Misio, who was the most reluctant to switch to the soup, is now the first one to try bone in meat! good for you, Misio! tonight for their dinner I did what you suggested and dabbed some little chunks of the squab in salmon oil before hand feeding them. Kinga just licked the oil off the meat, and then squirmed away, no matter how many times I tried. Misio would take the meat and run off to a "safer" spot before sucking the meat off the bone at first, haha. then finally! he ate some of the bones. when I at last gave them the dish of food kinga pushed the bone-in meat to the side, but Misio ate just a couple of them.
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Post by nannah on Oct 4, 2016 20:01:18 GMT -5
Crunch crunch crunch!!
that's Misio munching on the bone-in meat tonight! (giggle) I put a little less soup in the dish, so Kinga had her fill, but Misio was still a little hungry, and he just went for the bone-in meat and just started munching away!
I kept trying to introduce Kinga to the bones, and she would just lick the oil off and then just suck on the meat without chewing the actual bone. it might be a little slower with her.
oh! and the meat chunks are about half-inch to an inch in size?
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Post by FireAngel on Oct 4, 2016 21:04:23 GMT -5
This is great progress!!!!! :boing: An inch is a good size! Keep making them bigger, you will either reach a point where they will eat it no matter what size it is or you will find they have a size limit. I'm so excited about Misio crunching bone!! Kinga will get it I'm sure eventually.
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Post by nannah on Oct 6, 2016 23:30:20 GMT -5
hmmm. ok so Kinga really is giving me some trouble with bone. do I simply persist? she continues to suck on the oil only or will even take the meat and suck on it and spit the bone out.
I've heard gizzards are a good starter to bone, is that right? I know I have them somewhere in this freezer, I'll check again tomorrow.
but Misio is doing fine, haha! I mean if I have both meat and bone out obviously he won't go for the bone but he has no problem eating it
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Post by FireAngel on Oct 7, 2016 19:40:41 GMT -5
Yes gizzards are great for helping them build jaw strength to be able to eat bone easier. Keep persisting with Kinga. Persistance and patience are the key to a switch. You are doing great! I'm hoping to have another "lesson" ready for you on Monday. :evil4:
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Post by nannah on Oct 8, 2016 20:26:28 GMT -5
ahhhh so I had a big scare today.
well first the good news. Kinga ate some of the bone-in meat! just a couple, but she did it!
and then eating meat chunks, Misio suddenly backed up and threw up whitish-pinkish foam. it was soooo terrifying! then he hacked up a huge chunk of meat he didn't chew that was too large for him to swallow or something, maybe? I was just soooo scared! he's coughed/choked while eating bones before (which I heard was normal) but he'd never done this! wheewwww still calming down.
but I'm still proud of Kinga! :S
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Post by FireAngel on Oct 8, 2016 21:35:30 GMT -5
Nice!! Go Kinga!! I don't know if I would call it normal for them to cough/choke when eating bones but it is common when they first start. It bears watching though. They have been known to cut their gums or mouth and then get an infection from that or to get splinters of bone stuck in their teeth and occasionally they need help getting it unstuck. I'm glad he was ok.
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