nannah
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Post by nannah on Sept 6, 2016 13:44:52 GMT -5
I haven't left the bowl out all day for a long time, actually. should I be doing that?
well, some progress this morning!! Kinga is an eating machine as always, haha. she's still eating 1-1 1/2 ounces, and she just scarfs that meat up right from the bowl. I'm still spoon feeding Misio, but he's eating more now. about half an ounce,there's usually very little left over when they're both done. but this morning when they ate, after Kinga was done he squirmed out of my grasp to go to the bowl and eat out of it! but when Kinga's there, he won't touch the meat in the bowl. I had heard ferrets aren't very territorial when it comes to food,but for some reason, Misio won't touch the food when Kinga's around, and she kinda bothers him when she's done eating, and it messes with his eating. :/ hmmm.
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Post by FireAngel on Sept 6, 2016 14:05:01 GMT -5
Yes leave the bowl out for them to eat from on their own at will. Soup is good for 6-8 hours depending on room temp, don't be afraid to leave it for them. You may find they eat a lot more then you realize they will if they can do it on their own terms.
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Post by nannah on Sept 7, 2016 22:23:29 GMT -5
so I tried feeding them with 2 different bowls this morning. Kinga and Misio both went up to a bowl and ate everything in it, licking the bowls clean! I think Misio didn't like eating out of the same bowl as Kinga, for some reason, even though I've heard ferrets *usually don't mind eating out of the same bowl? but I guess that's just one of his quirks. anyway, for both meals today, both he and Kinga ate everything in their bowls, both 1oz each.
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Post by FireAngel on Sept 9, 2016 12:07:49 GMT -5
Nice!!! Try giving them more and see if they eat that. You can also try adding more slivers to the soup now.
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Post by nannah on Sept 10, 2016 12:32:22 GMT -5
made a new batch this morning. it had 2oz slivers. also have been giving the ferrets an oz and a half to eat, and Kinga doesn't finish hers, but sometimes Misio finishes his and licks the rest of hers up. sometimes they both don't finish but this is 100x better than I'd ever dream they'd be a couple weeks afo
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Post by FireAngel on Sept 14, 2016 12:11:55 GMT -5
Great! have you been leaving any out for them to be able to have throughout the day? The next batch you can either try mostly slivers instead of pureed or increase the size of the slivers. Sorry I was not on for a few days, work was a bit crazy and Lokis surgery did not help him at all. His blood sugars are still only 36 and he is still crashing.
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Post by FireAngel on Sept 19, 2016 12:51:47 GMT -5
nannah, hope everything is ok. It's been 9 days since you have posted anything, I'm getting a bit worried.
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Post by nannah on Sept 19, 2016 13:04:19 GMT -5
9 days?! oh my gosh I'm so sorry. I've been busy too, I apologize. there's been some nodules found in my lungs and I've tested positive in a few tests for a rare autoimmune disease. :/
is Loki doing ok?
also I'm now at about 3oz of slivers, fairly large at this point, and they're still eating it up! should I continue to just increase the amount and size at each batch? I'm also going to give you their stats as soon as I can!! (weighing and pics of poop, etc.)
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Post by FireAngel on Sept 19, 2016 21:12:09 GMT -5
9 days?! oh my gosh I'm so sorry. I've been busy too, I apologize. there's been some nodules found in my lungs and I've tested positive in a few tests for a rare autoimmune disease. :/ Oh my goodness! Hope you are taking good care of yourself! is Loki doing ok? Loki is hanging in there. We are at the point where we did everything we could and it just isn't enough. He will be spoiled till he is ready to leave us. also I'm now at about 3oz of slivers, fairly large at this point, and they're still eating it up! should I continue to just increase the amount and size at each batch? I'm also going to give you their stats as soon as I can!! (weighing and pics of poop, etc.) Yes keep going! Instead of making a batch of soup make a batch of small pieces and give that a try! I'm so excited they are doing great!
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Post by FireAngel on Sept 20, 2016 22:04:09 GMT -5
Lesson time! Today's lesson will be on organs! So we know that ferrets need 10% of their diet to be organs but do you know what organs are? Lets start with liver, liver should make up half of all organ consumption. It is high in vitamin A and C and in the mineral iron. When a ferret is feed liver as part of a meal their bowel movements are often a dark almost black color due to the iron content and on the looser side (looser BM's are true for any organ meat and also for plain muscle meat meals). Do not panic when you see a very dark and or looser stool after an organ meal but do keep on eye on the stools to be sure it goes back to normal. The other half should be the most varied combination of hormone secreting organs that you can get your hands on. The reason for this is simple, every organ has a different benefit to it based on the hormones it secretes. Examples of secreting organs are; spleen, kidney, brain, pancreas, thymus, thyroid, parathyroid, testicles/ovaries/uterus, gallbladder and green tripe. Most ferrets will not eat the green tripe (unprocessed stomach, but if yours will wooohoooo! (dance) That is great!) Now that we know what an organ meal should consist of lets do some math (I know it is so exciting! ) Just as an easy example if a ferret eats 2oz meals and you are feeding the frankenprey diet model then in one week you need to feed 1+1/2 meals of organs. So 1/2 will be liver and the other 1/2 will be other organ, this means that you will feed 1oz of liver and 1oz other organ for one meal and for the other meal that is only half (we usually combine this with the 1/2 heart meal to make a whole meal) you would give 1/2oz liver and 1/2oz other (that wasn't so hard now was it?! ) You can read more here also, Organs That is the end of this lesson, please don't hesitate to ask any questions you may have about it! :thumbsup:
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Post by nannah on Sept 21, 2016 15:56:10 GMT -5
thanks for the lesson! I always appreciate these lessons. and I'm so sorry about Loki, though I'm glad he'll be spoiled. he's in good hands. and I'll try to take care of myself. it's a struggle to be honest. ok here's some updated ferret stats! Kinga:weight: 1lbs 10oz she eats about an oz per meal, sometimes less. activity levels: she's very active, but in spurts. she's sleepy when sleepy, and Hyper when active. there's no middle ground with Kinga. most of the time she's trying to coax Misio into play. stools: Misio:weight: 2lbs 7oz he eats about an oz and a half per meal, basically whatever's left in the bowl, haha! sometimes he leaves a chunker or two. activity levels: he's more of a lounger. he loves to snuggle up in things. but when he's awake, he wants to explore rather than play. he wants to know what I'm doing, and sometimes he'll climb right up my legs and shirt to see what's up on the counter. he's got these wide, curious eyes and wants to know about everything!stools:
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Post by nannah on Sept 21, 2016 15:57:08 GMT -5
oh wait!! I have a question. I'll be making a new batch of ""chunky soup"" tonight.
if I'm not grinding the soup up, how will I add the calcium (egg shells/bone powder) into the soup? sorry if this is an obvious or stupid question.
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Post by FireAngel on Sept 21, 2016 21:56:48 GMT -5
Poops look good. Weights look good. You are doing great! (dance) For the eggs shell powder or bone meal just mix it in by hand.
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Post by nannah on Sept 25, 2016 16:19:43 GMT -5
I'm so sorry, haha, that definitely was a stupid question. the ferrets were a little hesitant at first, but they quickly came around and are enjoying their super chunky meals! my mom and I accidentally cut the meat probably a little too large, but hey, they're eating it!
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Post by FireAngel on Sept 25, 2016 22:28:02 GMT -5
No stupid questions! I'm so happy they are eating the chunks! Do you have any chicken necks?
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