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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2015 19:39:16 GMT -5
I've cut up Turkey necks and those are quite tough. I think the larger the bird, the harder it would be to cut up. I've also cut up duck wings and compared to chicken wings those are little more tough. Cutting them into sections is a breeze though. As you practice cutting the wings, you'll find out the best way for you. You can crush the bones to start out with. I did it that way using a cleaver knife. You just keep chopping at it until its a good size or amount for Gomez to start with. I've never seen or cut up CGH, however it must be very similar to chicken. I found chicken was easier compared to duck wings. hehe. Cartilage is also very okay. Its very good for ferrets. Hey, I guess what has been getting me is I see pics of Ferrants putting an entire thigh bone in their cage.....will start with wing tips for sure then Cornish or quail. Today his poop looks more like the poop charts for transition diet, Jami has pictures of that today. At leadt it has a little form to it. His spunk is better yet still sleepy, ate good for dinner and we tried leaving in a feed box but then we had to stay with him and hand feed in the box which is good. Wanted to start the next steps like Poncesmom said. He did not eat breakfast hardly at all, left it for him and he did not touch it. :thumbdown Here is another video from this afternoon after work. I've cut up Turkey necks and those are quite tough. I think the larger the bird, the harder it would be to cut up. I've also cut up duck wings and compared to chicken wings those are little more tough. Cutting them into sections is a breeze though. As you practice cutting the wings, you'll find out the best way for you. You can crush the bones to start out with. I did it that way using a cleaver knife. You just keep chopping at it until its a good size or amount for Gomez to start with. I've never seen or cut up CGH, however it must be very similar to chicken. I found chicken was easier compared to duck wings. hehe. Cartilage is also very okay. Its very good for ferrets.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2015 19:45:45 GMT -5
My wife and I want to know if we have ground the egg shell enough.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2015 19:46:17 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2015 19:46:22 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2015 2:13:28 GMT -5
Hey, I guess what has been getting me is I see pics of Ferrants putting an entire thigh bone in their cage.....will start with wing tips for sure then Cornish or quail.
Some ferrets can handle large bones. My guys usually won't touch anything thats too large so I chop them into pieces that I know they can handle. Wings are perfect to start with since the bones are small. If Gomez doesn't touch the whole wing tip, you can easily chop them up into little pieces. A few tips (hehe) if he doesn't touch the bone in meat, is to drizzle something he likes on it (salmon oil or some of the soupie that he's already used to etc.) Today his poop looks more like the poop charts for transition diet, Jami has pictures of that today. At leadt it has a little form to it. His spunk is better yet still sleepy, ate good for dinner and we tried leaving in a feed box but then we had to stay with him and hand feed in the box which is good. Wanted to start the next steps like Poncesmom said. He did not eat breakfast hardly at all, left it for him and he did not touch it. :thumbdown Here is another video from this afternoon after work.
It sounds like his body is adjusting quite nicely to the raw diet now. Poops change depending on what they eat. It's quite different compared to kibble poops. Do you leave the dinner in over night? As for breakfast, if you left it for him he probably did touch some. Weigh it before you put it out and then again after you remove it. If theres a difference then he probably did eat some. Since he's done well with the soupie, you can now give him less soup and more slivers . Keep doing it like that until he's eating the slivers (or chunks even) without soup. Once the soup is out, you can start bones.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2015 5:05:06 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2015 20:56:48 GMT -5
I love your video! So many leaves! Gomez looks like he's enjoying his walk~ ;u;
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2015 21:14:20 GMT -5
Hi hope your doing well today. What do you think about the ground egg shell, enough? Gomez has eaten today: Breakfast was difficult as it took about 30 min to get him to eat 2 oz soupie, ground steak and veal heart....he does NOT like heart at all. Did eat some last night and a little this morning but spits it out. He was like a little 2 yr old boy lol Dinner was great.....we went for a walk outside which he loves about 15 -20 min. Then ate 2 oz soupie, 1 oz chicken slivers and 2 oz steak ground. Tried to go off topic but then just redirected him. Jami and I noticed we give him the spoon while holding him and he starts eating then will sometimes eat on his own from the plate. Next he decides he will only eat if you hand feed him. I know that it is part of it but is it normal for 3 weeks later to still be hand feeding. I know it is him building trust too, just curious as we are trying to have him eat one meal on his own but nope. Poop is still mucus looking but more formed. More energy yesterday and today, I think we over did it with him this weekend or was too much oil.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2015 21:39:07 GMT -5
Hi! I'm doing very well today. How was your day? The egg shell should be a fine powder. Yours looks very good. If you can make it finer, that would be great too but yours is acceptable to use. There will be days where it will be difficult and there will probably even be days where it becomes very frustrating You're both doing very well and the longer meal times only mean more bonding time. Gomez is still doing quite well, be sure to give him lots of verbal encouragement if he licks, or eats something. I found that mine were more willing to try something when I was sitting there saying "oooh good girl/boy! Its yummy isn't it, keep eating~" hehehe. It sounds about right with the spitting out. My little girl, Haru did that all the time. Sometimes I spent an hour working with her. If you find that Gomez is being difficult, you can give him an hours break and try again. Sometimes the transition can be quite stressful for the little guys. Wow! Dinner was a great success! Good boy Gomez! Hand feeding is a great bonding experience and can be quite helpful. It does sound like hand feeding is giving Gomez a nice nudge so that he will try on his own. I'm quite impressed. I hand fed my girl for a long while. I had to start by holding her, then I put her down and fed her while she was sitting in my lap. After a while I stopped all together and she started on her own. Its great to hear that his poop is looking better. He's sounding more lively.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2015 5:37:41 GMT -5
Morning....he did good for breakfast had some chicken and heart with soupie and ate some heart, Jami put some oil drop on it and that helped. We left him with a veal riblets today to see how he does, small bones with some meat. Oh yes we encourage him alot while eating. Also notice he has to pee or poop sometimes half way thru so put him down from holding and he runs to the litter box. Then we start again lol. He is more lively these past few days. Well, off to work....we both work at the local hospital in administration and both have healthcare background ad I was pre-made and changed my major to admin. I am 53 and Jami is 42 and we live like 50 miles from the Canadian border here in New Hampshire in a small rural town about 6,000 people but we live in the country with 6 acres. Have a great day/night
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2015 6:06:33 GMT -5
Good morning to you! Such a great progress so far. Fingers crossed he's a hungry boy and munches on those veal riblets during the day. Gomez is such a well trained boy with his litter. Did you litter train him? A lively ferret is a healthy ferret. I noticed there is a big difference in energy levels when it comes to kibble diet vs raw diet. Before I switched my guys, they were not as lively but now they practically glow. (in the dark, hehehehe kidding.) Have a good day at work!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2015 17:41:40 GMT -5
Good morning to you! Such a great progress so far. Fingers crossed he's a hungry boy and munches on those veal riblets during the day. Gomez is such a well trained boy with his litter. Did you litter train him? A lively ferret is a healthy ferret. I noticed there is a big difference in energy levels when it comes to kibble diet vs raw diet. Before I switched my guys, they were not as lively but now they practically glow. (in the dark, hehehehe kidding.) Have a good day at work! Well. Little Gomez did not partake of the riblet.... . He was however hungry for dinner and put away 2 ounces of soupie. I had .5 ounces of chicken slivers. He did very well eating from the plate on his own for almost all the soupie. Had to spoon feed him the last 2-3 bits. When it came to the slivers I had to almost mince them.... and some I had to keep my fingers and or hand in front of his mouth to keep him from spitting it out! He can be quite stubborn on this issue. He comes across something mixed in his soupie....he tries to spit it out!!! Just like a little kid. Needless to say we did end up getting all the soupie and chicken bits into him for dinner. Is it OK to block his attempts to spit out the actual meat bits and slivers?? I don't want to be mean... but thought it was best to be a little more stubborn than him . He is still having what I would call switching poo... . But is definitely going and is actually peeing quite a bit. He doesn't seem to drink an over abundance of water but he does have access to it in both cages.... his large cage that he spends days in and the little cage in our bedroom that he sleeps in... plus we provide him with a splash tubby to play or drink from and he can get to the water dispenser that we have for him and our cat. We actually lucked out on the litter training --- he came to us that way. Lucky us!!! He is most definitely fitting right into the household and is becoming quite spoiled in the process!! Just love him to pieces!!!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2015 18:36:55 GMT -5
Good morning to you! Such a great progress so far. Fingers crossed he's a hungry boy and munches on those veal riblets during the day. Gomez is such a well trained boy with his litter. Did you litter train him? A lively ferret is a healthy ferret. I noticed there is a big difference in energy levels when it comes to kibble diet vs raw diet. Before I switched my guys, they were not as lively but now they practically glow. (in the dark, hehehehe kidding.) Have a good day at work! Well. Little Gomez did not partake of the riblet.... . He was however hungry for dinner and put away 2 ounces of soupie. I had .5 ounces of chicken slivers. He did very well eating from the plate on his own for almost all the soupie. Had to spoon feed him the last 2-3 bits. When it came to the slivers I had to almost mince them.... and some I had to keep my fingers and or hand in front of his mouth to keep him from spitting it out! He can be quite stubborn on this issue. He comes across something mixed in his soupie....he tries to spit it out!!! Just like a little kid. Needless to say we did end up getting all the soupie and chicken bits into him for dinner. Is it OK to block his attempts to spit out the actual meat bits and slivers?? I don't want to be mean... but thought it was best to be a little more stubborn than him . He is still having what I would call switching poo... . But is definitely going and is actually peeing quite a bit. He doesn't seem to drink an over abundance of water but he does have access to it in both cages.... his large cage that he spends days in and the little cage in our bedroom that he sleeps in... plus we provide him with a splash tubby to play or drink from and he can get to the water dispenser that we have for him and our cat. We actually lucked out on the litter training --- he came to us that way. Lucky us!!! He is most definitely fitting right into the household and is becoming quite spoiled in the process!! Just love him to pieces!!! Lucky you and Lucky Gomez. He has found himself in one very loving home. What a little character. He is just so adorable. They really are just like a little kid and just as smart in their own way. I don't think you're doing anything other than showing him that you want him to eat. They're smart enough to play us and he is young and you're being a ferrent. Just make sure that meals are pleasant for all three of you. He's peeing more because he is hydrated properly on his new raw food. Mine all love water and love water play. They seem to take little drinks alot here and there and we use puppy pads so I can see they all seem to pee alot. Hugs to Gomez and really you and Jamie are doing a wonderful job with your sweet funny boy. :wave3:
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2015 3:17:21 GMT -5
Oh no! Its sad to hear that Gomez wasn't interested in his riblet meal. It was well worth the shot though. My girl Haru spat slivers out also. I would place her in my lap, hold her if she would wriggle to run free and then cup my other hand with the sliver. When I would hold my cupped hand close to her mouth to prevent her from spitting it out. she would turn her head and be very stubborn with me but I was quite persistent and she got the idea that I wouldn't move my hand until the sliver was eaten. It's quite good that you made sure little Gomez ate all of his dinner. Be persistent and stubborn with him if you have to. It's not being mean, even if they would think that (which i doubt). They won't like it, but it does help a lot during meal times if its needed. Have you started decreasing the amount of soupie in his meal plates? You could also try feeding a sliver to him in between meals.
You're more than welcome to document this so called 'switching poo' (hehehehe) Gomez will probably be drinking less and less on raw. I rarely see my guys drink water since they get all the water they need from their fresh raw diet. By Gomez peeing quite a bit means that he is well hydrated, like Poncesmom said. Its a very good sign. You did luck out! Lucky you! I got Haru and Yuki as kits and had to start from the beginning. Boy was there a lot of back and fourth with them. I also got a lot of rebellious pooping on their bedding. (cheeky kits they were) My rescue had to have training also, just a little. Gomez must be a very happy little ferret with being so spoilt. Spoiling them makes us very happy ferrents.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2015 3:38:21 GMT -5
We have started increasing the amount of slivers and bites of meats. Chicken, veal heart. Ground steak. But seems very reluctant to the heart. More so than other meats He seems to be shedding quite a bit?? Assuming that's normal this time of year.... But he's very good with the litter box and such a love bug!!! Have a good day!
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