Play time was good. They aren't playing as long as usual but still run around and cause trouble. Molly's poop is normal but stitch's is a bit foamy and mucousy. They are both eating well. I'll get their weights posted as soon as they pass out
They are getting good at chewing up the bits. Sometimes, usually Molly will take the piece outside of the bowl chew it a bit till it drops from her mouth and doesn't finish it. I'm giving them an egg tonight for dinner because Molly is getting her usual coughs from all the hair she's been grooming and I feel stitch hasn't been eating enough (may just be paranoid) and with the egg I know he will I'm guessing as the chunks get bigger they will eat less?
And of course the one who I brought the egg out for won't touch it
For the proportions, it works better if you weigh the chicken before you cut up the pieces and make the rest into soup. That way you can keep the proportions as follows:
-8oz meat -1/2 tsp eggshell -0.5oz organ -1-2oz heart
So if you end up using more than 8oz meat, just add a little more of everything else
That sounds pretty normal what Molly is doing with the pieces now, she is getting the hang of chewing
Oh silly Stitch, sometimes they are funny like that, they like something one day, won't touch it the next, love it the day after that.
I meant to ask the other day, how much soup are you using with the chunks? I know you tried to post a picture but it didn't work. Like are you still floating the pieces in the soup? Or just using it as a gravy on top?
Let's try work towards making it a gravy. Also try offering them tiny pieces of heart and organ in there, if you aren't doing that already
How do you feel about trying them on some tiny pieces of bone too?
Do you have any chicken wings?
And yes they will eat less of the bigger chunks because they are getting more meat out of it
Oh poop I've been putting in 1oz of liver this whole time! Should I go into what I've prepped and redo it or will it be fine for now?
I am putting about 1 - 1 1/2 tbsp of soup with maybe 1/2 tbsp of meat. Just guessing really on how much of the chunky meat is in there. The soup is basically a paste varying a bit on each batch I make and I sort of just mix it up and it sits as a huge glob in the bowl hahah appetizing.
I do have chicken wings that I can defrost and chop up for them. I also have gizzards if you wanted me to try throwing those in to get them chewing more
Okay so weird. This is the second or third time I have seen this today and I don't know who's it coming from but it's like a huge chunk of chicken in someone's poop! I've gone through it looking at it to see if it was cotton but it doesn't break apart like cotton would! And it seriously looks like a bit of chicken in the poop randomly. Is that possible? Is that even normal?
Have their poops been okay with the 1oz of liver? We used to tell people to use 1oz, but we found that it was causing icky ferret poops.
Feed the rest of the batch you made, no worries there at all, but if you find their poops have been kind of gross, I would use only 0.5 oz for the next batch. If their poops are fine then you can keep using the 1oz.
Does the "chicken" in the poop happen to be white and kind of slimey looking? I have a feeling it's a hairball. If you still have the poop, take a picture for me. In pretty sure that's what it is though, because I thought the same thing the first time I saw one. Actually I thought it was a worm! But when hairballs pass, they get coated in mucous and they end up looking white like a worm or a piece of chicken. And kind of slimey.
I would give them an egg to share tonight. Even if they've already had one lately. It will just help lube up the insides and make sure all the hair got out. I wouldn't worry too much though, it is a good thing when the hairballs pass and don't cause blockages!
As for the raw feeding, that's excellent! Go ahead and chop up some chicken wings. Cut them up into tiny pieces (butcher scissors work well for cutting bones) and if you have a hammer, smash the bones a little bit to expose the bone marrow - this is the yummy part. Then just sneak these pieces in the soup.
Feel free to start adding smaller pieces of gizzard too. They are very chewy and good for cleaning the teeth and they will help build up those jaw muscles
Hahaha most likely a hairball then! She's the one that usually does have the hairball problems. Mostly coughing. Never have seen one in poop before! I gave them an egg for breakfast with some soup no chunks inside as I only have school for 4ish hours Their poop has seemed fine with the 1oz. I'll just start prepping with it in the middle so I don't have to exact cut up pieces of liver cuz liver sucks! I'll also take out some wings and gizzards and start adding them in as well. I'm guessing gizzards count as muscle meat?
I'm thinking so, they look pretty darn weird the first time you see them!
That sounds perfect, don't worry about getting exact measurements, I never am that picky with the liver, because I know what you mean about it being hard to do!
That sounds perfect and yes gizzards do count as muscle meat
Organs include the following: liver, kidney, pancreas, spleen, brain, uterus,
Muscle meat includes: hearts, gizzards and other other non bone meat
Bone in meat includes: any meat with edible bone (keyword there being edible, some bones are too big for them to eat so these don't count).
Let me know how the bones and gizzards go!
Oh and I can't remember, but are you putting pieces of heart and liver in the soup now too (on top of the blended up ones)? Are they eating those okay? Eventually they will have to eat plain ones for meals so I want to make sure they are getting used to the taste now.
I don't currently have bits of heart or liver in the soup right now but I can totally add some! I will also most likely start the gizzards and bones mixed in Friday after school so I can watch and see how they react. I'll take out some hearts and some liver as well
When I started to try and feed them the soup with the bone and gizzard they each refused to eat so I stuck them in the cage with the bowl and so far only one of them has eaten. Don't know which one and don't know if they have gotten any bones. Also did not add any liver or heart bits. Also lately they have started to not eat or really try to eat the larger chunks of chicken breast. They finish the bits of ground pork all the time but it's like they pick up the chicken chew it once or twice give up and drop it on the floor. Should I wait a bit with the bones and such until they are better with the size of chicken bits or just see what happens. The sizes of the chunks range like fingernail sizes do.