The ferret lube works the same way as Vaseline, so you're right that's fine for now.
If he likes the ferret lube I would mix it with the pumpkin. The pumpkin is what you really want to get in him to push the remaining cotton out.
And it sounds to me like he had a normal raw poop. See if you can't get enough pumpkin in him to produce what basically looks like kibble poop (you know the perfectly formed poop that's quite thick) except orange. This is really the only way to tell that there's no more cotton floating around in there minus a barium X-ray.
You may have to pick up a syringe and water down the pumpkin a bit and squirt it in the side of his mouth.
And I know what you mean. The poop waiting game and the poop dissecting game are ones I am all too familiar with!
Poop throughout the night was a bit runny, no cotton was in there. I gave some pumpkin mixed in with his soup before I left today. Sneak some in there hehe He's still not dehydrated and he is acting normal as usual I'll be making him eat the pumpkin tonight when I get home till he gets an orange poop. He can hate me all he wants
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So I am home now, checked the poop and there was a little bit of cotton. The poop was orange but not pumpkin orange so I'm going to go ahead and syringe feed until I get that lovely poop.
Another thing about the soup. I find when I leave it in their cage for a normal day so 6ish hours and they have access to my room they haven't been going to eat. I have a feeling it may be because I put too much in the plate for them. Is this normal? Should I be keeping them in the cage throughout the day instead or should I try keeping two bowls in there one day? Or maybe one out of the cage and one in the cage? They eat it fine if I keep them in the cage but I kinda feel bad about doing that all day
He pooped about 4ish hours ago so I am assuming one should be coming soon hopefully. Thankfully don't have school till noon tomorrow so I can stay up and continue giving him pumpkin till he poops He also ate soup at 730 after his pumpkin so hopefully that fills up his stomach more to get the poops to come sooner!
I got some poop. It wasn't pumpkin orange which I'm guessing were aiming for. It was a brownie orange. No cotton in there. I fed them dinner, gave him some more pumpkin and some lube for good measures. I'll be getting up in the middle of the night a couple of times to check and give him more pumpkin for sure.
No cotton in any poop all last night and this morning so far Also I'm going to start adding chicken breast slivers this weekend with some of the ground pork to see if they will tolerate the harder to chew meat in there
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I got an orange poop with some cotton today... I have double checked everything and thinking it must still be from that one time. He is eating fine and what not. Gave him some more pumpkin. Hoping that was the last of it...
They are doing fine with the pork and chicken slivers so far. I think before I was just putting too much in the plate which made their whiskers touch it cuz they are eating in whenever they want again
Hey, sorry for the delayed response! Apparently the reply I posted yesterday did not go through, grrr pro boards is frustrating sometimes!
Do you happen to know how much of the cotton on the puppy pad he ate? It seems a like fishy to me that cotton is STILL coming out, despite the fact that he has had a few fairly solid poops. Even if they haven't been pumpkin orange, if they were nice and big and fat (ie. the thickness of the digestive tract) then IN THEORY they should have pushed all the cotton out.
That being said cotton is one of those tricky things that could make for a devious floating blockage. But.. Are you sure he isn't eating anymore puppy pads or something else somehow?
The good news is that it's not causing issues and isn't blocking him up. Keep giving a couple tsp of pumpkin a day for the next 3 or 4 days just to be sure.
If you are still Seeing more cotton coming out though after today, it honestly might be worth it to get a barium xray and making sure there's not some piece stuck in there that little pieces just keep breaking off of.
As for the switching business, you definitely don't have to lock them in the cage all day and force them to eat. It's likely that you are giving too much soup, and that their appetites have slowed down now for 2 reasons.
1) they have been on the raw soup for a while now and their appetites are probably starting to stabilize
2) it's approaching winter time (I'm assuming... Unless You are in Australia) which means that their appetites tend to decrease a bit.
Good job cutting back on the soup on the plate to prevent their whiskers from touching too. I find some are just really finicky about that! See, You are taking my advice before I even give it! Keep up the good work
I'm sure he hasn't been eating anymore puppy pads, I've really been on him. I'll give him the rest of what I have in the little rubermaid container tonight. I will be tellin the vet tomorrow about this.
And awesome about their appetites I figured it may have something to do with the winter. I remember last year they also got a bit lazier! I'll take a picture of the slivers and chunks of stuff tonight or tomorrow so you can see the size figure it would be the easiest way.
Today I did some cutting up of cow hearts in class and I just brought them home cuz why not Now I am wondering if I need to freeze them for the 4-6 weeks as if they were game hearts or not as the teacher did get them from a butcher and they are from beef cattle. Also how many oz of heart do I put into the soup?
I'm wondering how much their appetites change in the seasons? Do they eat half as much as usual for example of a quarter less if that makes sense haha
I told the vet about the cotton and she said as long as he's passing it it's good basically, not much else more on that topic. I don't think I'm going to go with getting their teeth cleaned and ill give that product a try with brushing their teeth every night. Hopefully that will help them a bit and maybe reverse a bit of the tarter.
The cow heart should be okay if it's from a butcher, doesn't hurt to freeze it though as long as it was fresh and not preserved in any way.
It's generally 1oz heart in the soup but since you can't overdose on hearts and they are really important, more never hurts
As for seasonal appetite changes I'm not 100% sure,I have never really paid that close of attention to the amounts. It really depends on the ferret too, males generally eat more than females. You will get the hang of adjusting their food amounts though, after a while it becomes kind of intuitive
And a picture would be very helpful for sliver sizing
Sounds good on what your vet says too. Just keep a close eye on him for any changes, but hopefully the cotton is all out.
Once we get them eating bone, that will help with the tartar too.
Will the bone actually help reduce the tartar!? I thought it would just keep the teeth maintained! That's great news. I brushed their teeth tonight and it's going to be interesting doing this every night. I was trying to get the picture uploaded but my computers Internet sucks.