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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2013 13:42:00 GMT -5
Well, Nyxie went into season yesterday. Her behavior hasn't changed too much (but she's always been a bit of a brat ). I'll post some pix when I can get some. How long do I have to do something about this? 1 week?
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Post by Sherry on Jan 8, 2013 14:17:37 GMT -5
If she's going to be implanted the sooner the better I'd think. It else a Jill jab at 7-10 days in.
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Post by crazylady on Jan 8, 2013 15:10:15 GMT -5
Hi I normally jill jab mine if they need it between days twelve and fourteen good luck with your baby ( I am guessing she is a kit normally its only kits who come in this early when its there first season lol ) take care bye for now Bev
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Post by Sherry on Jan 8, 2013 18:14:29 GMT -5
Thanks Bev- for some reason I was thinking week and a half!
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Post by lorelei0922 on Jan 15, 2013 14:19:19 GMT -5
yes Bev... she's one of mine born may 13 ... every single kit that went to the states has shown seasonal signs .. where as their brother and sisters here in the UK... aren't showing ANY signs at all...
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Post by crazylady on Jan 15, 2013 17:54:32 GMT -5
Hi Heather its weird maybe its different temps or air pressure lol only they know why lol I know some of my old guys have started letting there bits down think the snowfall over the past few days might make them do a re think and the temps lol its minus 6 tonight lol non of my jills are in yet take care bye for now Bev
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2013 14:57:17 GMT -5
Shell be getting des this Friday along with Pixie (adrenal).
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Post by lorelei0922 on Jan 16, 2013 15:08:51 GMT -5
i think perhaps its more a definitive show how artificial lighting and indoor temp differences affect seasonal changes in them drastically...
another case in point... Sage...the dark litter's dad has come to live inside where i can keep a better eye on his water intake ( purely preventative...) but He's lived outdoors all his life, always seasoned exactly on time..(late march to mid august)... and He's fully in season now!!! i attribute it Directly to artificial lights and temps.. even though He sleeps completely in the dark... and for Much of the day and night...
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Post by Heather on Jan 16, 2013 16:13:59 GMT -5
I"m beginning to wonder about temps playing a larger role too. I accidently (too much artificial light) put Tico in season, so he's been hovering. He's now coming into season (stinky boy...though not greasy, but he's starting to sing his hob song while prowling) and so are the 'binos though slower (they're becoming colourful...orange ). The only cold temps they get to play in is the outdoors but they don't spend a lot of time out there. The rest of the time it's about 70 degrees. ciao
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Post by crazylady on Jan 16, 2013 18:23:35 GMT -5
temp could play a big roll in it too because when you think about it along with the bits going up in a hob the coat also thickens to protect there bits if its warm the body wont produce such a thick coat so they are sort of in limbo half in half out a bit confused even though the lighting maybe right the temp could be saying to the body hey its warm enough to breed they could survive this my guys ( and I am sure lorelei's are the same ) who are kept outside in a ferret house have thick thick coats this year ( this started as soon as the really cold weather hit ) and there still thick even though there bits are slowly coming down as soon as there is a raise in temp I know they will blow there coats and it will be jewels down lets dance for the ladies lol I think its linked because if you look around in spring once temps raise birds start nesting ect which in the wild means the beginning of plentiful food a good time to raise kits maybe the temps are also encouraging them to come in earlier along with any extra artificial light( as you found out the hard way heather there is a fine line) lol 70 degrees over here would be a heat wave lol it was minus 16 last night and we have been warned of a blizzard heading our way on friday so not to drive lol it just seems strange everyone of the kits sent over have come in maybe the owners could compare notes and see if there is a common denominator ( heat light ect ) just my two pennies worth take care bye for now Bev
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Post by Heather on Jan 16, 2013 22:47:11 GMT -5
Jackie, how many of the kits' owners are on the forum? ciao
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Post by Sherry on Jan 16, 2013 23:05:19 GMT -5
I believe we only have two. And one is having some technical issues with the forum at present.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2013 23:13:43 GMT -5
I think two including myself. Amanda adopted a sandy kit who also has come into season.
AFAIK, all of the poley females that came to the US have come into season. I attribute it to the change in environment.
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Post by Heather on Jan 16, 2013 23:35:32 GMT -5
I wonder if we could accumulate some information regarding average temps and lighting and see if there is indeed a correlation between us keeping our little ones inside vs how they're kept by their original breeders. I still think that our changing lifestyles (up later, new types of energy saving lighting) has a lot to do with our adrenal problems too. We have the numbers to feed the information, all we need is to get the information accumulated to see if what we see in early seasons in our intacts actually means that our early spay and neuters are being subjected to more hours of lighting than we actually assume. I know I never really thought about it until I got my UK crew. I knew that I was limiting the amount of lighting that my guys were subjected to but I never once thought how slim a line I had to walk. Many of us take out our guys when we get home from work and play with them and allow them to rumble around. It's just a thought....but it does point to certain aspects of our care that we've known about but just weren't aware as to how important these factors are. Keeping these little ones under an artificial temp control may also be a factor which may need to be considered too. ciao
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Post by darlene on Jan 17, 2013 0:24:08 GMT -5
would be interesting on what the US breeders (on this forum) have to say.
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