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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2012 7:46:22 GMT -5
I am also going to get their exact weights today for you. Waiting on my hubby to get home so he can help
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Post by Heather on Nov 8, 2012 11:50:43 GMT -5
Weighing is easy. You put a bowl on your scale take some oil (I use salmon or seal, whatever you use for a treat), put ferret in bowl and let them have the oil. My guys will usually stand in the bowl relatively quietly while they lick and smack their lips in appreciation ;D While they're doing that, I get their weight. I will be interested to see what their weights are. Your wee girlie appears to be of good weight from your photos. Your boy has some funky hair loss patterns but also appears to be of good weight. ciao
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2012 12:01:06 GMT -5
When we got them he had almost no hair on his neck and other patches missing as well. They were both severely infested with fleas and their nails were extremely long as well. Am i supposed to be giving them kibble at all?? They haven't had any kibble since the first successful soupy eating. Its been soup. I also added slivers to their soup as well as hand fed them slivers this morning. They went crazy for slivers Sent from my Motorola Electrify using proboards
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2012 12:11:51 GMT -5
Ash is 1048 grams Luna is 698 grams
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Post by Heather on Nov 8, 2012 12:16:12 GMT -5
Make bigger slivers lol. Keep going this is great. You don't have to feed kibbles if they're eating their soupy so well. You may want to add a tsp or 2 of pumpkin (not pie filling) to the mix if you haven't already. Especially, if they're just going to be eating soupy. No, if they're eating soupy that well, pull the kibbles. You may want to give them some at night but again if they're eating the soupy so well totally on their own...you've got no problems pulling their kibbles It could be the fleas that caused the hair loss, you may also be looking at adrenal. Just going by his age and the hair loss. Lets see what happens. Just a thought...because they're eating this so well, you may want to see if they will take some bone. You can try some chicken wings if you can get them. Even just offer them the tip. You can cut it up into smaller chuncks but just to see what they will do with it. It will probably get stashed.
ciao
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2012 9:25:59 GMT -5
Still enjoying soupy but ash is eating around the slivers. I am going to try the bigger chunks with some bone today to luna and try offering a liver sliver to ash to see if he will eat that.. i also have to make more soupy and i am going to add the pumpkin to the mix. Can it be straight from the pumpkin?? I ask because i am up to my neck in miniature pumpkins lol!
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Post by Heather on Nov 9, 2012 16:04:35 GMT -5
Sorry, modem crashed and I couldn't get on. Still something funky going on but it's working. As long as you're using cooked pumpkin go for it. You can freeze it the same way that you make your meat mixture too, so that you will have some later when you've run out of pumpkins. Ash's response isn't uncommon. Leave it a couple of days at the same level, see if he will eat the tiny slivers again...go back to the finger nail size...see if he will eat that. ciao
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2012 23:18:26 GMT -5
Ok so i scooped the litter tonight and wanted to make sure a tar like stool is normal.. kinda 3 different colors. Less poop as well.
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Post by Heather on Nov 9, 2012 23:44:18 GMT -5
Less poop is good. Raw feeding is a wonderful thing . Are they eating lots? About how many ounces? You mentioned feeding some liver, straight up...this will present itself as tarry stools. Ferrets process their food really fast, almost too fast to digest properly. High blood meats, like organ meats will result in the same type of stools as such illnesses as ulcers. For your own peace of mind it might be a good idea to keep a log in the beginning, outlining what is fed, amounts and results. ciao
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2012 11:14:48 GMT -5
My god are they ever eating alot.. today i have to make more soup and cut up more slivers, cook some pumpkin up. They have ate a whole ice cube tray of soup since the switch. Not counting the slivers of chicken.. i haven't ttried the straight liver slivers yet but thats today as well to get prepared.. i wanted to also ask if the could have ground beef? I keep alot of ground beef for cooking. Ash already feels heavier.. Luna seems to feel very slightly softer as well. Can i add giblets to their diet as well? Sorry for the information overload lol!! Last night i started feeling ill so i knew making soup and handling meat was out of the question so i gave them some kibble for the night.. they ran to the bowl and you could see the disappointment . They just sniffed at it.. so i went and threw a couple soup cubes on top.. they were eating the soup cubes before they fully thawed lol!!
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Post by Heather on Nov 10, 2012 12:27:28 GMT -5
;D ;DI"m sorry that you're feeling off....yes, making soupy doesn't do much for the whole stomach thing Just a word of warning...it may or may not happen so just know. Mixing your soupy with kibbles can upset some tummies so do so with knowledge that it can happen. Kibbles digest at a different rate than meats. This can allow for a build up of bacteria that some ferrets have difficulty dealing with. This time when you make up your soupy a little less water, let's start drying this up and getting them ready for whole food. You can use ground anything as long as it's not chemically enhanced (some manufacturers add salt and other spices to their meats...it should be marked on the packages) You shouldn't feed these to your little ones. Ground beef, chicken, turkey, pork can all be used is substitution to the recipe I gave you. Are you presently adding liver slivers to their soupy? Yes, you can feed them the gibblets. My guys love those things...they're worth fighting for....they will also help clean your guys teeth until they start eating bone. Let me know how they do...and get better ciao
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2012 13:34:15 GMT -5
They are loving the giblets!! I actually prepared a plate for them this time around.. the soup is chunky with pumpkin in it as well. We have slivers and small chunks of chicken, liver and giblets as well on top and at the side.. i am watching like a hawk to see who is eating what. As far as bones.. is there a size ratio they should have or does it matter?
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Post by Heather on Nov 10, 2012 13:37:11 GMT -5
I usually start with chicken wings. Some people start with just the tips...most of my guys didn't like them because there wasn't enough meat but the double boned section goes over very well. They could probably eat some of the bone on the final piece as well but don't be surprised if they don't have the jaw strength yet. Rabbit is another soft bone, but sometimes harder to get. ciao
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2012 13:39:21 GMT -5
My photo bucket seems to be down at the moment but i have the pictures of this meal and luna gobbling a peice of liver right up as well as ash eating the meat slivers.
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Post by Heather on Nov 10, 2012 13:44:19 GMT -5
Incease the size and the number of the meat slivers and see how they do ciao
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