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Post by dorena261-Natalia on Jan 28, 2015 16:49:37 GMT -5
it's great they are eating more on their own. what about the pork? are they eating it better than last week?
about the prolapse, do you see the part of intestine or it just looks a bit swollen? do you give them any oils with their meals, and was the poop normal or harder than usual? oils can do this and harder stools. keep an eye on that, if it continues it would be good to see the vet.
haha, Brooklyn like the dark!
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Post by ferretbrah on Jan 28, 2015 21:17:49 GMT -5
I think I ran out of the portioned out pork but I should have some more to thaw out for tomorrow.
Yeah you can see a tad of the intestine end of that makes sense. It isn't red , and it is the normal tan color I would say. Poops seem to be the same. Should I try getting him to drink more to soften it up?
I haven't been giving them oils yet as I need to find the salmon oil still. I may just go ahead and buy it online. I believe they were like $26,00 for a small bottle.
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Post by dorena261-Natalia on Jan 29, 2015 4:18:30 GMT -5
too much oil can cause prolapse, thats why i asked. you can try to add a bit of meat in the mince, or water, it will soften their poop a bit and you will see does it helps. anyway, if it continues i would bring him to a vet. i will ask senior mentors about that too, maybe they have some idea.
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Post by dorena261-Natalia on Jan 29, 2015 17:54:36 GMT -5
i asked.. some commercial grinds are a bit higher in bone and that could be the reason of dry poops which can cause a prolapses. try to track if it's only one type of protein or grind that causes problems. if that's the case, you should add some meat in that grind to prevent the prolapses in the future or try to avoid the protein.
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Post by ferretbrah on Jan 31, 2015 15:11:39 GMT -5
1/27
Morning: duck 1oz Afternoon: quail 1oz Evening: Turkey 1oz Night: Quail 1oz
Total: 4oz
1/28
Morning :Turkey 1oz Afternoon: rabbit 0.7oz Evening: rabbit 0.7oz Night: turkey 1oz
Total: 3.4oz
1/29
Morning: duck 0.8oz Afternoon: quail 0.8oz +1/2 duck heart Evening: rabbit: 0.6oz
Total: 2.2oz+1/2 duck heart
1/30
Morning: quail 1oz Afternoon: pork 0.5oz Evening: pork 0.5oz Night: quail 0.5oz
Total: 2.5oz
1/31
Afternoon: quail 0.5oz
So far we have not seen harry have it happen again yet since. The recent difference is not having turkey for a few days. They did have pork twice yesterday but had to be scruffed throughout the whole thing or else they would 'fake eat it' by just licking it lightly.
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Post by dorena261-Natalia on Feb 1, 2015 5:27:45 GMT -5
little brats! i'm glad prolapse didn't happened again but keep an eye on it. you can give them only one protein a day so you can keep track on it easier and see if some mince is the cause. is the quail you're giving them minced or not and did you try to increase the size of quail and hearts? and what about the mice. any changes?
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Post by dorena261-Natalia on Feb 1, 2015 5:33:42 GMT -5
i forgot to mention again. since they're on mince you should brush their teeth at least once a week, otherwise they will have problems. ultra soft kids toothbrush and hot water, scruff them and clean it. once they start to eat bones and bigger meat pieces you won't have to think about that
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Post by ferretbrah on Feb 1, 2015 14:26:08 GMT -5
The quail is still soupish with some small chunks up to about 1/3 of an inch in size. They are eating that fine (I guess since bird bones are easy to break)
I tried to go up in heart size slivers but they are giving me trouble with it and pretty much need to be scruffed even if it is hidden inside the turkey / quail / duck.
I did try another mouse again but had the same problems unfortunately where they absolutely refused to eat it.
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Post by ferretbrah on Feb 1, 2015 14:27:40 GMT -5
And I am going to brush their teeth / nails / ears today.
Their teeth do have some stains on them from the grinds, but it doesn't look that bad.
Hopefully this teeth brushing attempt will be successful
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Post by dorena261-Natalia on Feb 3, 2015 3:42:14 GMT -5
i had the same problem with mices. so many of them were thrown away until they started to eat. but they will, you just have to be more stubborn and keep offering. just like the pork. if they are eating quail chunks that big without any problem, you should increase the size. you can always put few bigger chunks on a side or in the mince. they need to start chewing let me know did you manage to brush their teeth. it's hard in the beginning until they get used to it, but that is extremely important for them so they won't have problems with their gums and teeth.
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Post by ferretbrah on Feb 3, 2015 12:06:27 GMT -5
We used oxyfresh pet gel toothpaste, which worked very well. Brooklyn didnt mind it too much and harry only squirmed a few times. We just rubbed it against their teeth and gums and will attempt it with a brush in a few days again probably.
The toothpaste has almost no smell which is probably why they didn't freak out and Brooklyn even tried to lick it while we were brushing them.
Yeah, I will just have to keep trying with the mice and larger pieces of quail , and heart.
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Post by ferretbrah on Feb 3, 2015 13:06:35 GMT -5
Also forgot to mention I found the grizzly salmon oil {100%}
And they both loved it right away! How much should I be giving them a week?
I have them each about 1/3 of a pump so maybe 1/2 a teaspoon
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Post by dorena261-Natalia on Feb 3, 2015 17:32:01 GMT -5
yaaay for salmon oil! now you can try the mouse and pork with it you can give them 1/3 tsp every 3 days. i put few drops on the food maybe once a week, but i use coconut oil and extra virgin olive oil too and only with Nyx. others get few drops here and there, usually when there is some meat they don't like so much like beef. about the teeth, i was using dental gel for ferrets after the brushing, but i saw it's the same thing when i brush them with only warm water, without the gel. no difference. Nyx has had huge problems with her gums after the immunosuppressants few months ago, i couldn't brush them regularly bc the gums were bleeding. not much, but it was hurting her, and she had bad ulcers. the vet said to stop brushing for a while until it gets better, but in the meanwhile lots of plaque pile up. she's not a candidate for a sedation (to clean them by a vet) cause she had bad lab exams and had a bad reaction on medicine last time on sedation so i bought LEBA III spray. now we will se how will it work.
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Post by dorena261-Natalia on Feb 6, 2015 18:06:45 GMT -5
did prolapse happened again?
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Post by ferretbrah on Feb 6, 2015 21:49:07 GMT -5
1/27
Morning: duck 1oz Afternoon: quail 1oz Evening: Turkey 1oz Night: Quail 1oz
Total: 4oz
1/28
Morning :Turkey 1oz Afternoon: rabbit 0.7oz Evening: rabbit 0.7oz Night: turkey 1oz
Total: 3.4oz
1/29
Morning: duck 0.8oz Afternoon: quail 0.8oz +1/2 duck heart Evening: rabbit: 0.6oz
Total: 2.2oz+1/2 duck heart
1/30
Morning: quail 1oz Afternoon: pork 0.5oz Evening: pork 0.5oz Night: quail 0.5oz
Total: 2.5oz
1/31
Afternoon: quail 0.5oz Evening: Rabbit 0.8oz Night: Duck 0.7oz
Total: 2oz
2/1
Afternoon: rabbit 0.7oz Evening: quail 1oz Turkey 1oz Night: harry: 1oz Brooklyn: 0.2oz
Total: 3.7oz harry Brooklyn : 2.9oz
2/2
Afternoon: turkey 0.8oz Evening : turkey 1oz Night: quail 1oz+1/4 tsp salmon oil
Total: 2.8oz
2/3
Afternoon: duck 0.7oz Evening: Duck 0.7oz Turkey 1oz Night : Turkey 1oz
Total: 3.4oz
2/4
Afternoon: rabbit 0.7oz Duck 0.7oz Evening: Turkey 1oz Night: Rabbit 0.2oz Total: 2.6oz
2/5
Afternoon: duck 1oz Evening: Turkey 1oz Turkey 1oz+1/2 duck heart each Night: Quail 0.8oz
Total: 3.8oz+1/2 duck heart each
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