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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2012 8:50:14 GMT -5
Rachel, I have high hopes that you'll make it through an entire rut with Pimm as you've already experienced the odor and the sliming. I'll be very happy to give you a cookie if you make it all the way through, but you'll have to come here to collect it...and of course you have to bring Pimm, Cocchi, and Raven with you. ;D I'm imagining the innocent faces if we had full-rut Pimm on the airplane with us. "'scuse me, my husband has... GAS."
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2012 11:20:50 GMT -5
Joan- for me, it is not an option to let him go through his first 2 ruts at least before doing anything. We had a unaltered male pot belly pig who lived in our home for 3 months before he was at the proper weight and his testicals dropped before our vet would neurter him. He stunk of musk that stayed on you and the clothes until they were washed, totally forgot his potty training which ment he peed every ware, naughty little boy, thought that he had only 2 jobs in life, eating and humping everything including the cats, dogs and US, and dribbled his musk whenever he saw fit. We finally had to banish him to the kitchen or his 4' x 6' doggy play pen which we put a tarp under with a blanket on top of the tarp so he didn't destroy the carpet. Does this remind you of anybody?? Like a hob?
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Post by joan on Nov 25, 2012 11:59:52 GMT -5
That's just it....I don't have time for one ;D ;D ciao I'll pray for you that you can retain your sanity throughout your coming ordeal. ;D If you're really lucky, their second year in rut won't be as bad as the first.
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Post by joan on Nov 25, 2012 12:03:07 GMT -5
Sheila, allowing him to go through one rut before neutering or a Des implant should be sufficient. Have you talked to the breeder about your best option to ensure that he won't develop adrenal in the future?
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Post by joan on Nov 25, 2012 12:33:19 GMT -5
[/IMG] [/quote] Well, he'd be in cargo...that is, if they were willing to accept him for shipping. ;D Hopefully, the odor wouldn't seep through to the passenger level. Anyway, you'd be visiting AFTER he went out of rut and his odor was back to normal...no way would I want a third hob in rut here next year, even for a short visit!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2012 13:12:40 GMT -5
Joan- I will pm you.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2012 13:15:05 GMT -5
Geez - I didn't think the hobs were THAT bad...Tonto went through two ruts and SHAMAN went through one before we "snipped" them. But my kids have their own room, and the cage (3-story, double-wide FN) could easily allow for rotation/isolation as required) and they're supervised when they're outside the ferret room - our carpeting needed to be replace 15 years ago - but we left it 'as is" since we have the brats. We'll definitely need to replace it before we sell. One thing that was GREAT about having intact obs is that, when the hobs were being batty and did not want to come out from under a piece of furniture,all you had to do is hold one of the girls in font of the furniture....the hobs would be out in a flash -jennifer
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Post by joan on Nov 25, 2012 13:45:11 GMT -5
I agree with you, Jennifer, that intact hobs aren't that bad when they're in rut. But then I don't mind the odor and the living room is tile, so the sliming is easily cleaned up. The ferret room is carpet, which I'm hoping to talk the landlord into letting me replace with tile next year. Most pet owners do have a problem living with both of those things, so neuter the hob when they're not willing to tolerate it any longer.
I know exactly what you mean re using a jill to get them out of places you can't reach under. I have a bookcase that's just high enough for the ferrets to get under, but deep enough that I can't reach all the way in to get hold of them. Showing them a piece of meat usually brings them out, but showing a jill to a hob in the spring always brings them out instantly. What works year round with a jill who won't come out is showing her another jill whom she hates. ;D
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Post by miamiferret2 on Nov 25, 2012 13:53:50 GMT -5
I made sure to buy a house with ceramic tiles in every room. Even altered ferrets can stink up a carpet pretty bad. Plus, the fat boys tend to get a bit of urine around their bellies. It is much easier to clean the urine trail from a tile floor.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2012 16:15:37 GMT -5
Well, he'd be in cargo...that is, if they were willing to accept him for shipping. ;D Hopefully, the odor wouldn't seep through to the passenger level. Anyway, you'd be visiting AFTER he went out of rut and his odor was back to normal...no way would I want a third hob in rut here next year, even for a short visit! Oh, where's your sense of adventure?! I think it's the change in temperament between rut and not-rut that make the determination and angst of the hobs harder to bear. Sliming doesn't help, either. I'm not sure how much Pimm will change, though... he's a pretty mellow dude. He LOVES hugs and seems to love them even more as he gets older.
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Post by joan on Nov 25, 2012 17:48:23 GMT -5
Oh, where's your sense of adventure?! I think it's the change in temperament between rut and not-rut that make the determination and angst of the hobs harder to bear. Sliming doesn't help, either. I'm not sure how much Pimm will change, though... he's a pretty mellow dude. He LOVES hugs and seems to love them even more as he gets older. I still have a fairly strong sense of adventure, but I have an even stronger sense of self preservation...especially when it comes to my sanity. ;D I really wouldn't expect Pimm's temperament to change when he comes in rut, as Basil remains the same when he's in rut...well, other than his one track mind on jills. None of Pimm's older brothers had any significant changes in temperament last year or at least none of their owners reported any. Raven and Onyx were the only ones who went through an entire rut, as the others were neutered within a month. Raven was the same all the way through, as well.
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Post by nancyl on Nov 26, 2012 1:15:00 GMT -5
And Onyx is pretty much the same little butthead in or out of rut. His picture is next to the word "stubborn" in the dictionary.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2012 9:56:07 GMT -5
;D
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2012 10:34:54 GMT -5
That's funny, I remember seeing a picture of Onyx on this forum and actually thinking that he looked like a ferret with an attitude (also gorgeous though) ;D You can almost see that he's stubborn looking at him in that pic haha...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2012 13:40:44 GMT -5
Raven has his way of doing things. It's emo-Drama if his feelings aren't consulted or he feels that he's been violated in some way. He can be a butt-head about it. But I think less so than his brother. 9:00 is chicken time. There is no disagreement with this. We were running late returning from our Thanksgiving trip and ended up on the road at 9pm. Raven pitched a 5-lb ferret FIT in his carrier. For an hour. He was incessant while we were trying to get his carrier into the house and shove chicken into his face. Lesson learned: carry spare raw chicken. Everywhere. He has assigned different types of play to my husband and myself. If we swap roles, dear me.
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