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Post by kikimama on Jul 10, 2012 10:40:05 GMT -5
Hearts for breakfast then liver for dinner or on two separate days?
What is a good treat for them that I can use for training? Kiki spoiled us coming trained to his name and doing a few cute tricks.
Kodo has a new trick....she loves baby socks. I found the boys missing socks in her bed lol. Podo has decided that my hoodie is his and has taken claim on the through way pocket.lol
Date: July 10th 2012
Name: Kodo
Weight: 1.5 lbs or 680.3886g starting weight 1.1lbs or 498.9516g gained weight of 4oz or 181.437g
On average meal: 1.5oz to 3 oz
Fluid: Drinking well (has been very hot this last two weeks)
Activity level: Lots of energy, playful, cuddly and sleeps well after play
Stool: normal on raw no bone meal and normal on raw bone meal. Looked at spool chart on forum
Diet: Monday: Chicken breast boneless
Tuesday: Chicken wing
Wednesday: Chicken breast bonless
Thursday: ground Chicken breast with done, egg shell
Friday: Chicken wing
Saturday: Chicken breast
Sunday; Chicken wing and cracked raw egg
Name: Podo
Weight:2.2lbs or 997.9033g starting weight 2.9lbs or 1315.4180g loss of 7oz or 317.5147g
on average meal:1oz to 3 oz now
stool is now as it should be. Looks like photo on stool chart for raw and raw with bone
Weekly diet is the same as Kodo's but he was getting chicken and duc soup puree at being.
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Post by Sherry on Jul 10, 2012 10:51:05 GMT -5
They both sound in good form  And sorry- should have clarified! Two separate days, with a bone meal in between. Otherwise poops would be very loose. |
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Post by Sherry on Jul 10, 2012 10:52:53 GMT -5
And a good training treat would be oil of some sort. Just a taste from the end if your finger. My guys live grizzly salmon oil, as well as triple marine fish oil.
If they don't take to oil right away, you can also use tiny slivers of raw meat hand fed.
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Post by kikimama on Jul 10, 2012 11:54:22 GMT -5
Thanks I have oil for them. After heart and liver can they try fish? If yes what kind of fish is best for them?
Can I give them any kind of fowl now and is there enough meat on necks for one meal?
Thanks again for all your help. You Rock!
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Post by kikimama on Jul 10, 2012 21:38:46 GMT -5
So I got some nice fresh chicken hearts today instead of frozen. Kodo walked away from them and Podo wanted to eat them but wasn't sure he should. Had to put oil on them for the kidz to eat them. How many should they have. I gave them two for they were small. Should I give them some chicken before bed so they are full?
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Post by Sherry on Jul 10, 2012 22:52:35 GMT -5
You can. I usually feed at least one full meal of heart a week. As much as they will eat. At least once a month I feed two meals in a week. You can't overdose on taurine which is what they need heart for.
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Post by kikimama on Jul 10, 2012 23:31:11 GMT -5
If you have a menu I could see that would be great. I have sort of one and I know it will get bigger as they eat more and change their needs. I was also wondering where I will get mice, rabbit and quail from?
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Post by Sherry on Jul 11, 2012 8:07:53 GMT -5
Here are a few different ones people have graduated with.
Monday: Duck Wing, Heart
Tuesday: Turkey Neck, Goat Leg
Wednesday: Cornish Hen
Thursday: Half Quail, Liver&Beef Lung
Friday: Lamb Riblets, Heart
Saturday: Duck Feet, Chicken Backs
Sunday: Turkey Neck, Duck Wing
Sunday:
AM ¼ Cornish hen (bone)
PM chicken heart (organ)
Monday:
AM chicken breast (bone)
PM pork chunks (boneless)
Tuesday:
AM quail (bone)
PM ¼ Cornish hen (bone)
Wednesday:
AM chicken neck (bone)
PM liver/uterus (organ)
Thursday:
AM pork chunks (boneless)
PM chicken neck (bone)
Friday:
AM quail (bone)
PM chicken breast (bone)
Saturday:
AM chicken heart (organ)
PM pork chunks (boneless)
Monday:
1 large adult mouse and 1/2 a chicken breast and half a chicken wing with a good sliver of turkey heart
Tue: 1 6 week quail half and ground pheasant whole ( about 2-3 oz)
wed: med GP half and half a pheasant breast
Thurs: chick treat with rabbit breast and rib bone, sliver of heart and liver
Friday: 8 week quail ( about half) and a chicken neck and chicken heart sliver
Sat:Chicken thigh smashed bone, pheasant kidney and pheasant liver slivers
Sun: Quail whole with no feathers and turkey breast halves and some save rabbit brai
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Post by kikimama on Jul 19, 2012 14:23:50 GMT -5
That's a great menu. I just with I could get half of it. lol. It will be easier to get things in the big city.
Kodo is 1.9 lbs from 1.5 lbs
drinking well
playing well
very cuddly with her daddy
stool is normal based on poop chart lol
Diet:
Monday: Chicken breast boneless/ liver
Tuesday: Chicken wing/ground pork with egg shell
Wednesday: Chicken breast boneless/duck wing
Thursday: ground Chicken breast with done, egg shell/heart
Friday: Chicken wing/turkey neck with diced turkey meat
Saturday: Chicken breast/pork pieces
Sunday; Chicken wing and cracked raw egg/chicken gizzards
Podo
2.9lbs up from 2.2
plays well loves cuddles with mama
stool is to pics on poop chart
drinking well
Diet same as Kodo's
Where do you get you raw prey from? I would love to see what they would do with a mouse rat or GP.
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Post by Sherry on Jul 19, 2012 14:34:07 GMT -5
There is a board in the diet section called "raw and whole prey providers". I believe The Canadian Mouseman would deliver up your way.
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Post by Sherry on Jul 19, 2012 14:37:18 GMT -5
Diet is looking good! And nice to see the weight gain Two changes I'd like to see. You've got 6 bone meals(or equivalent). You should up that to between 8-9. That, and another organ if you can find it. Kidney is the most common. There is a board in the diet section called "raw and whole prey providers". I believe The Canadian Mouseman would deliver up your way. |
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Post by kikimama on Jul 20, 2012 0:23:04 GMT -5
They dont really like the heart or liver. I have to put their oil on it to get them to eat it. If I dont they just push it to the bottom of their cage and go back to their beds. Then when supper time comes with the meat they are trying to eat my fingers. I would love to give them a mouse to try but its really hard to get things for them. Duck and other birds are so so high in price. For duck its over $30 and they are frozen the other fowl is the same in high price. Try to get a chick here is like pulling teeth. We will be in the city for a week. I plan on getting them the hard to get things there and bring them back with me. Thank you again for all your help.
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Post by Sherry on Jul 20, 2012 9:47:29 GMT -5
Okay, if you are feeding heart and liver together- try giving just the heart by itself and see how they do with it. If they eat that, then you know it's the liver. What I had to do with mine was puree the liver and add a tsp of heavy cream(whipping) and hand feed for a while before they'd accept it on it's own.
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Post by kikimama on Jul 23, 2012 22:51:40 GMT -5
Can they eat goat? I can get stewing pieces of goat here with bone in.
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Post by Sherry on Jul 23, 2012 23:42:51 GMT -5
Definitely! Mine love goat ;D They can eat ANY meat that has not been altered. IE: salted, smoked, brined, etc.
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