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Post by Sherry on Sept 20, 2012 14:44:02 GMT -5
Once they came into full rut, yes
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2012 15:42:29 GMT -5
This video is to painfull to see, these ferrets are housed seperatly i hope? I'm not sure which video you mean, but if you meant my video, yes my hob Finn lives in a separate cage when he is in rut. Just so you know though, this is what ferret mating is like, it isn't pretty but without this there would be any ferrets Just watching what a ferret mating looks like, with the biting, dragging, screaming, etc. is probably enough to deter most people from ever wanting to breed them ;D Ferrets are not very romantic ;D They are like cave men... bonk their chosen female on the head and drag back to your cave to have your way with her I guess the idea being if you can't subdue her you don't deserve to reproduce!
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Post by Heather on Sept 20, 2012 16:01:26 GMT -5
I had to laugh at Lady Morgain's idea of it. Bacchus was a gentle soul, hesitant....so she beat the crap out of him. He got the idea and reciprocated. All was well and they played for the rest of the weekend ;D No, there are some real gentlemen fuzzes out there. I believe Lorelie had one boy who was the height of gentle discretion but for the most part....yah, Mikey's got it right. Smack her a few and then drag her off to the cave. True neanderthals, it is definitely not for the faint of heart. ciao
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2012 16:06:06 GMT -5
I like to think Finn would be somewhat of a gentleman, still drag her off kicking and screaming but at least being relatively gentle about it ;D Ferrets have pretty tough skin but I've heard SOME males bite too hard and hurt the jill in the process. Joan has said that she doesn't breed males if they are overly aggressive about mating, to the point of injuring the female. Those males don't get bred and get snipped instead [img src="http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h352/JW_2012/Emoticons/ i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h352/JW_2012/Emoticons/0_0.gif"].gif[/IMG]
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Post by shiftyferret on Sept 20, 2012 18:38:22 GMT -5
See guys? Be nice... or loose your balls!!! ;D Good incentive to be a gentleman.
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Post by Sherry on Sept 20, 2012 19:30:43 GMT -5
I remember reading about a breeder checking the ferrets over after a mating session. She'd check the female's scruff for possible injuries- and then proceed to check the male from nose to tail ;D
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Post by joan on Sept 22, 2012 11:23:47 GMT -5
A jill who is screaming when being dragged around isn't ready for breeding or else doesn't want to be bred by that hob. Some jills will play hard to get for 15-20 minutes, but are quiet and amenable to the hob's advances once they allow him to catch them.
Here's a quote from "Reproduction, Development, & Inheritance in the Ferret" by Fara Shimbo:
The idea that a hob "needs" to be aggressive toward a jill is an entire fabrication; aggression in a mating hob is ABNORMAL and a sign that something is mentally wrong with the hob. What is usually wrong is the ferretry management.
She thinks this is due in many cases to the hob being isolated from kithood and not allowed to interact with other ferrets. She goes on to say: " A hob and a jill should always meet on neutral ground. They should be allowed as much time to get to know each other as they would like."
I've always done this and, in 13 years, have only ever had one hob who was aggressive to the point that the jill had bleeding scratches on her neck from his attempts to subdue her. He was put away and neutered a few days later. She was bred the next day to another hob without any further problems.
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Post by crazylady on Sept 22, 2012 13:29:19 GMT -5
I normally leave my jills 12-14 days and by then there throwing themselves on the hobs lol ( they give a certain stink from glands on there necks ) often you get a male who is a bit dumb ( if its his first time ) but they soon get the idea lol take care bye for now bev
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2012 3:54:05 GMT -5
The female on the video was spayed. Therefor i find it totally unnecessary to let your hob do this to her. its much to stress full for her. a female how is in heat is much more willing.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2012 4:23:04 GMT -5
The female on the video was spayed. Therefor i find it totally unnecessary to let your hob do this to her. its much to stress full for her. a female how is in heat is much more willing. Relax, he only scruffed her for a minute while I was taking the video. After this I separated them. He didn't hurt her, and ferrets do this much to each other even when they are playing. No ferrets were harmed in the making of the video ;D Just want to make sure you understand, this was a one-time thing, just for the video. It would be stressful if he did this to her every day. Which is why they were kept separate. In fact the purpose of the video was to show people on the forum and ask the question, Is it time to separate them? He just started doing that, so the question was whether this was acceptable. I was told, no, this is stressful for her, so they should be separated now, and then they were separated. When he is in rut they live in separate cages and have separate playtimes. Once he starts showing sexual behavior that is when they are separated until his rut is over. During the rest of the year when he's not in rut they live together and he doesn't act sexual towards her. When he is not in rut they sleep together and love each other and she grooms his ears and cuddles up with him
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2012 10:21:17 GMT -5
Heh, I'd like to cuddle up with Finn, he looks like such a gigantic cuddle bug. I can just see it, laying down with a book on a rainy day and a giant moose of a ferret for a pillow. ;P I am disappointed Zar'thun decided to stop growing at 3lbs.
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