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Post by Heather on Mar 1, 2012 13:22:18 GMT -5
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Post by crazylady on Mar 1, 2012 16:12:48 GMT -5
Hi the agression you are seeing is natural in a young whole hob even though your others are fixed ( I have two whole brothers who live together all year round they simply play making whoopie together lol as long as necks are not broken and bleeding its fine lol) a lot of people all over the world have turned to the des implant ( I see a lot of it at shows ) the problem is its one big experiment no one knows for sure the long term results ! yes it calms down hormones but could it cause other problems ( I know breeders have problems with breeding and hobs coming into season once they have been implanted even after the implant has run out !) and in some cases the same is seen with females the only way a fixed ferret looses muscle mass is if the diet is not adjusted a fixed ferret should be given 1/3 less daily ( they should be treated just like a fixed cat or dog or they rapidly gain fat and loose muscle ) hope this helps take care bye for now Bev
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Post by joan on Mar 2, 2012 12:18:13 GMT -5
IME, a jill rarely loses much (if any) muscle mass after being spayed, as long as she has matured physically first. It's a different story with the hobs, though. Even if they're neutered after going through a rut, they'll still lose some muscle mass though not as much as the ones who were neutered prior to sexual maturity. I've never seen a altered hob with the same muscle mass he had prior to neutering...the difference is really dramatic in the ones altered at 6-8 months, which is when the sales agreement requires many privately bred ferrets to be altered.
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Post by Heather on Mar 2, 2012 13:43:33 GMT -5
I was a little horrified at the loss of muscle mass with Odin. He was about 5 when he was altered, so a late alter. He never was a big hob by any standard but he was a chunky one. About a year after the alter, I was amazed as to how much muscle he had lost. He still weighed the same and he still felt a lot different (bigger chest and around the ribs...tiny little bum though ;D) than my farm rescues. He has much better bone structure too. Even Thor who I guess would be an early alter as he was altered at just a year or thereabouts has better bone and muscle than my farm fuzzies ciao
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2012 18:33:00 GMT -5
I have 1 male hobb who's gone through his rut (Australia, breeding season been & gone now) & that's Lucien. He was housed with a speyed jill as a bed buddy, whom he only ever scruffed if she wouldn't give up her dinner. He sometimes half heartedly mounted her, but it would last about 30 seconds & he'd lie down & lick her ears. She never had any tender spots on her neck like the girls in heat did, thoguh he was hopeless with them also & was more interested in his food & toys. I think it's probably individual, for the moment I'd let him go through his rut & then see how he goes next year, personally.
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