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Post by katt on Feb 25, 2011 15:16:07 GMT -5
Koda and Kenai woke me up again last night, and this morning, and again this morning. Finally I shut Koda up in the top level of the FN and Kenai in the bottom for a few hours. However, I only have one litter box, one feeding den, one water dish so separating them for very long is a bit of an issue. There has been no poop or blood, but Kenai has digressed in his potty habits a bit so I do think it is stressing him out a bit. Or he is just being a brat. I them snuggling a lot, and playing normally a lot, but when Koda decides he wants some booty he is just relentless! He has been getting significantly worse over the course of the week. Koda has been on his own before obviously, but poor Kenai has never been on his own. Even when he first came home and was in a separate cage, the cages were very close to each other, and he spent very little time in the cage. I do feel that they have bonded, and I do not want to make them sad/stress them by separating. This whole thing is honestly overwhelming and heartbreaking. No amount of holding pillows over my head can shut out poor little Kenai's whimpers when he is being mounted by Koda, and Koda's intense "dooking."
I do not want to separate them. But I DO need to know when enough is enough. How do I know when Kenai has had enough and needs to be separated? Like I said No poop no blood, but I know it has to be stressful for the little guy...
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Post by Heather on Feb 25, 2011 15:22:25 GMT -5
I found the only solutions to Captain Jack's sexual onslaught was sudocreme and finally des implants. He's been absolutely angelic since about 2 weeks after his shot. The sudocreme stopped him immediately though and the creme lasted for about 8 hrs. after spreading it on the neck of his dearly intended
ciao
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2011 15:31:58 GMT -5
I'd separate them - intact hobs get separated all the time and commonly have to be by themselves. You will know that Kenai has had too much if Koda succeeds in getting what he wants and Kenai has sustained some major irritation or injury to his bum.  Put Kenai on the top. the reason for this is that Koda can more easily try to get through the closed ramp-door from the top level (by digging at the closed up ramp) where he may injure a foot. Kenai will probably be relieved to get his petsy brother off his back - literally. -jennifer |
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Post by goingpostal on Feb 25, 2011 16:06:12 GMT -5
I'd separate them as well, it's not fair to Kenai to be under attack all the time. I have the same issue with Craven, but he actually seems to have settled down somewhat now, and the others have learned and often won't sleep in the same hammock, so he's been sleeping alone. But mine have a whole room to spread out, stuck in a cage Kenai can't escape. Hopefully with treatment he will stop the sexual behavior and you can put them back together but it might take a few weeks IME.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2011 16:15:55 GMT -5
Poor Kenai  I'd try to cream Heather referred to, that way you don't have to separate them. Hopefully Koda's lupron will fix this situations |
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Post by katt on Feb 25, 2011 16:31:46 GMT -5
Heather, the Sudocream, do I goop it on or do I rub it in like you would with skin so that it just has the taste but not the actual cream left to get over anything Kenai touches? Someone earlier said that Desitin is the US equivalent to Sudocream I can get that easily enough.
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Post by shilohismygirl on Feb 25, 2011 18:07:34 GMT -5
I feel quite sad for both of them-for now, it might be best to separate them. Koda is sick; and I understand that pain-Oz is most likely the same. I catch him doing the same thing to Shiloh, but it hasn't gotten as bad as with Koda and Kenai. I know that you'll do right by both of them, to keep them both safe and happy. You're a good mom-do what you can to ease the stress for both of them.
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Post by Sherry on Feb 25, 2011 19:00:58 GMT -5
You slather it on Katt. All over Kenai's neck and shoulders, where Koda would grab him. Personally, I'd keep them separated except under supervision. And use the sudocream then.
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Post by Heather on Feb 25, 2011 23:30:08 GMT -5
I found that I just smoothed some on Napoleon's neck and shoulders Captain Jack just left him alone. It only took one of those enthusiastic double licks that they do before they latch on and Captain Jack never touched him again. All he had to do was smell it. After awhile, all I had to do was skim a bit on Napoleon's scruff. All Jack had to do was smell it. If you're the least uncomfortable with this, definitely separate the two boys. Just watch for stress from either boy. Actually, watch for stress from Kenai as well either way (either from Koda's sexual advances or from separation).
When is Koda going in for his lupron shot?
ciao
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Post by Sherry on Feb 26, 2011 0:18:09 GMT -5
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Post by katt on Feb 26, 2011 12:21:14 GMT -5
I used vinegar again last night and it seems to have worked well. Heather, he goes in this Wed.
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Post by acodlin on Feb 26, 2011 18:01:36 GMT -5
Its what I had to do with Dean. I felt terrible too katt but in the end it was better for everyone. Dean has this ferret condo he loves and I put it in the bottom of the cage and made sure he had his own food and water and locked him in alone. At first he didnt like it but then he got use to it, I just made sure to give him lots of extra love. It only took a couple of weeks if that for the aggression to go away with des implants.
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