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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2011 10:59:25 GMT -5
Captain Morgan is really interested in SoCo, who is equally interested in Captain Morgan.. but only when Morgan isnt paying attention. When Morgan looks at SoCo he freaks out and runs behind my legs- its cute but I want him to gain confidence. Its only been a few days so this is more a vent/think out loud thing to waste the 7 mins till my lunch break than anything else.. but if time alone together doesnt build his confidence- do you think letting both of them play with Tequila (my chiahuahua for those who dont know) will? SoCo has no fear of Tequila, he undertands Tequila's play tactics and will actually bite Tequila when they play. Morgan hasn't played with a dog in about a year. My mom had a dog but she was much slower than Tequila and afraid of the ferrets/not really interested in interaction with them... Iuno. Just thinking out loud- your thoughts?
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Post by Sherry on Aug 5, 2011 12:54:48 GMT -5
Let them play. If they need to fight it out, they will. Then after Morgan has proved to Soco he is boss, they'll be fine together. Right now, Soco is like a spoiled little boy who knows his mom won't make him do anything he doesn't want to do! ;D
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Post by Heather on Aug 5, 2011 13:10:02 GMT -5
Unfortunately, it's true. It's the only way. I'm grinding the courage up to let Minion take another trouncing at the hands of Lady Natasha and Fun-Go. The other day Lady Natasha managed to escape (couldn't have latched the door properly on the FN) and she and Minion got into it. I ran down broke it up and put her back. Then, when I checked Minion I realized he hadn't pooped himself this time...I should have left it alone. Now, I have to start all over again I was preoccupied and not thinking. Stupid, stupid me ciao
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Post by katt on Aug 5, 2011 13:23:44 GMT -5
Let them play. If they need to fight it out, they will. Then after Morgan has proved to Soco he is boss, they'll be fine together. Right now, Soco is like a spoiled little boy who knows his mom won't make him do anything he doesn't want to do! ;D Could not have put it better myself!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2011 13:24:44 GMT -5
My 3 ferrets stayed with my nephew for 4 days. During that time, the boys, Finn, Fenton, and Rosco, all fought with each other, in every possible combination. They also would "pick on" my nephew's female, would scream bloody murder. My nephew kept telling me he had to separate them in the cages, and he was all worried and stuff. He would wake up in the morning hearing bumping around and scuffling in the cage, because they were fighting, and he would hear squeaking and chattering. He kept trying to break them up, separate them, distract them, etc. to stop the fighting. From his point of view, they whole experience was stressful and worrisome. Now, it's the other way around, I have his 2 ferrets staying with my 3 ferrets. My way of dealing with the situation is, all 5 go in the cage together, and I pay no attention to their fights. They are perfectly happy and sleep together in a pile It turns out the fighting he was worried about is a non-issue. Here's hoping your fights are of the normal kind and don't lead to injuries, and that you can get to a place where it's OK and everyone is happy Just keep in mind that the "happy state" where everyone gets along, may still include daily fights, but as long as there is "no poop, no blood" it's probably fine and they may even enjoy it and the exercise is good for them. Mine seem to enjoy their morning fights and even the ones who usually "lose" always come back for more.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2011 13:53:47 GMT -5
I think you guys misunderstand. We all know SoCo and Kahlua's past- I know SoCo wont be fighting it out with anyone and thats one reason why Morgan was a good choice, when he gets comfortable with other fuzz he has this ... aura about him thats like, "Look, kid, you and I both know that I could kick ur bum- but I wont, just dont bother me when I dont want to be bothered." lol, Yall need to check out my new post to see his reaction when I'm in there... Sherry n Katt r dead on about the fact that he's spoiled- He always has been. When I let Kahlua out with Mojito and Morgan while SoCo was in his lil cage (for pics and all I didnt want to risk trying to keep her from eatting SoCo while taking pics lol) and 90% of the time he would look at me, sigh heavily and flop on the floor pouting like a two year old in time out, haha. Its hilarous and I knew he was spoiled but until last night I dont think I had realized just how very spoiled he is. They arent fighting, at all. Its the opposite. SoCo acts like an ostrich, lmao. Morgan goes near SoCo and SoCo runs and hides, usually between my feet (or if im sitting on the ground, between my legs- basically as close to me as humanly possible). I'm sure SoCo's confidence will come with time, it just makes me sad that he is so freaked out by other ferrets ' annnd I was just brainstorming confidence building ideas incase time doesnt help. I woud realllly like to *see* him playing with other ferrets
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Post by Sherry on Aug 5, 2011 15:05:33 GMT -5
He will get over it with time. Suki had the crap beat out of her every day by Williw, and she'd do exactly what Soco is doing right now. I'd pick her up, give her some reassurance, put on another layer of sudocream, put her down- And WALK AWAY. She ultimately learned that she had to deal with it on her own. THAT'S what built up her self confidence. We can't build it up for them.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2011 15:32:57 GMT -5
hmm.. that makes me wonder.... He is much bigger than Kahlua now and with Tequila he has learned not only to bite, play and fight but he has actually gotten annoyed with Tequila to the point that he bit Tequila too hard and making him cry I was like and he didnt let go, and he shook his little head with more gumption then I would assume he could muster face to face with a 9lb dog. So I know he CAN handle himself now... I just don't know if he would even try if it came to him and Kahlua. I know the last time I let him and Kahlua try to 'work it out' she made him bleed which scared me to death- but he also didn't stick up for himself, he just laid there like dead sea weed.. but I dont remember if that was before or after he learned to bite/play/fight/get annoyed. I wonder if trying to let him and Kahlua finally duke it out (with supervision of course and interuption only if she draws blood) would help his confidence with all other ferrets in general?
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Post by Sherry on Aug 5, 2011 20:11:54 GMT -5
She likely will draw blood. It just depends on how bad it is. Why not start them out with 10 minutes meetings, and just keep trying to distract her during it.
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Post by natalie on Aug 6, 2011 15:39:16 GMT -5
This discussion is so helpful to a new fert mommy. My two rescues, Blaze and Helen, are just fine together, and with my daughter's dog and cats. However, I am moving my office home and Blaze and Helen will move here from my daughter's apartment and join a different set of critters. Eventually there will surely be more ferts.
Learning all the time from the experts,
Thanks so much for your insights, Natalie
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Post by Sherry on Aug 6, 2011 16:37:05 GMT -5
Hey- that's what we're here for And if you are having a problem with them, likely one of us has either already gone through it, or is in the process of having to deal with it. And sometimes just having a support base to bounce ideas off really helps
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2011 8:54:40 GMT -5
Hey so good news Things were extremly quiet the other night and I went to check in on SoCo and Morgs and they were curled up together. I knew that Morgs would be a good match for SoCo. Kahlua is rediculous. Since Morgs and SoCo started sleeping together, everytime she comes out and I let her and Morgs play- she runs over and chases him trying to clean him. Evenutally she wares him down, cleans him all over like a cat with her new born kitten and then curles up with him I am just gonna give up and get the Zylkene for her...
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Post by Sherry on Aug 8, 2011 14:42:45 GMT -5
Glad Morgan and Soco are getting along
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2011 10:56:17 GMT -5
Okay so.. SoCo isn't being food possesive uhm.. at all. When he was younger and just started eating raw, he dragged his food over the carpet and it would get covered in hair and things. One time, I went to take it from him and he make a strange 'bark'ing noise and went to grab the food better, accidently grabbed my finger (the only time hes ever 'bitten' me. I dont really consider it a bite though because it was completly accidental and he let go as soon as he realized) I thought that I should probably work with him about food aggression a little cuz it was before I realized that he and Kahlua would prolly never get along. I started feeding him by hand more often but usually around others he was still slightly food aggressive... Uhm, but last night- not so much. I wonder if I maybe went too far with it? Maybe I should've let him be a little butt about food. Last night Mojito finished the tip of his chicken wing, dropped it and went to take SoCo's chicken wing from him. SoCo just let go of it, backed away and watched intently as Mojito ate the tip (the favorite part for both of them) I felt bad for him.. I may have been projecting human emotion onto him, but I swear he looked devastated/hurt/sad... u know like big puppy dog eyes or like a lil kid watching a big bully down his ice cream cone. It was sad. I picked Mojito up, put him and his chicken wing in his cage and gave SoCo his wing back. Was that the wrong way to go about it?
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Post by Sherry on Aug 10, 2011 12:28:27 GMT -5
That's normal. Alpha ferret always gets the part they want first. Had soco fought for it, mojito would have considered it a challenge. Lucrezia is always stealing Boris and Vincent's food.
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