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Post by rahx3 on Jul 13, 2011 20:32:29 GMT -5
I've discovered a commerical raw food called 3P Naturals. They make dog and cat raw foods, with tons of different types of meat I was wondering if anyone has heard of it? And if the cat formula would be alright to feed my fuzzies. As far as I can tell its a Vancouver-made food. So I don't know if there's anyone from around here that would know but thought I'd ask!  |
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Post by katt on Jul 13, 2011 20:53:20 GMT -5
I would be leery of their ingredients... www.3pnaturals.com/products/basic-instincts-varieties"3P Naturals Basic Instincts™ is raw cat food designed to meet the specific nutritional needs of cats. This formula is made up of dried egg yolk, steamed lamb bone meal, gelatin (agar), psyllium husk and wild salmon oil. In our various blends we incorporate the Basic Instincts™ Formula with muscle meat, heart (when available) and liver at appropriate proportions." The gelatin and steamed bone and psyllium husk make me a bit leery. psyllium is used as a laxative, psyllium husk is used for colon health. Also, it says "appropriate" proportions but does not indicate what those proportions are. It could be a very good product, but I personally would want to know a lot more before using it. |
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Post by katt on Jul 13, 2011 20:53:52 GMT -5
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Post by Heather on Jul 13, 2011 23:11:56 GMT -5
I wouldn't go there. Just my opinion of course but a carnivore should never be given psyllium except under the direction of a vet or a holistic caregiver. Carnivores, cannot consume (nor do they desire to) enough fluids to offset the psyllium. This whole process of creating bowel health in a carnivore is totally different than a human, yet manufacturers seem to insist that they're the same. When we consume spyllium, we drink a given amount of water, I believe the dosage is 16 oz of water. For us we will do that, a ferret will not. If the given amount of water isn't consumed, this becomes a hard immovable mass...a blockage. It can happen to humans consider how fast it will happen to a carnivore that lives on the brink of dehydration all the time. If a food is steamed it's not raw, unless there is some kind of process I'm not understanding here (which there may be  ) The words of "heart...when available" bothers me. How do you know it's been added? taurine is a necessary component. You can't just omit part of the recipe because "you" as a manufacturer can't get it. Your clients rely on the whole recipe, that's why they buy it. Steamed bone? is this cooked, if so to what point? that is necessary knowledge....raw bone is good, cooked bone isn't....but you can cook bone to the point where it becomes safe again? I'm guessing this has been done? I don't like to guess about an ingredient. There is too much that isn't stated, too many questions, too many liberties taken by the manufacturers....appropriate proportions? when available? No, I wouldn't be feeding this product to my ferret or my cat for that matter JMO  ciao |
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Post by Sherry on Jul 14, 2011 0:13:15 GMT -5
Just for the purposes of reiteration, I agree with all of the above- particularly about the psyllium. As for the gelatin, it's meat based(usually), but it's also cooked to reach the point of being gelatin. Won't hurt, but won't help either. If the bone is steamed to the point of mush, won't hurt, but again won't help. That's fine in a soupie for a sick fuzz, but a healthy one(cats included) need it raw. If you are in BC, Mountain Dog makes a far better food. www.mountaindogfood.com/Obviously, you wouldn't want the "fruit and veggie" variety made for dogs, but you can make a pretty healthy diet from the rest of their stuff. You may have to "mix and match", but it's there. |
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Post by katt on Jul 14, 2011 0:41:02 GMT -5
Sherry to they ship to Alaska?
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Post by Sherry on Jul 14, 2011 9:25:41 GMT -5
Not a clue. I pick mine up from my local raw feeding pet store. Best bet is to ask at one of those. They'll likely be able to find out easier, or maybe MD will ship directly?
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Post by rahx3 on Jul 14, 2011 11:52:59 GMT -5
We actually sell mountain dog where I work ha ha
Thanks guys, I really appreciate the input =]
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Post by Sherry on Jul 14, 2011 13:24:23 GMT -5
They've got some really good quality stuff! I use the turkey hearts, livers, necks, wings, chicken necks.
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Post by rahx3 on Jul 18, 2011 14:10:51 GMT -5
Yeah I've looked at the MDF site and it looks pretty awesome.
I know my store carries the chicken cat food, so maybe I can sweet talk my boss into bringing in some other stuff for me. ;D
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Post by Sherry on Jul 18, 2011 15:04:00 GMT -5
I originally had to order turkey hearts and livers by the case until the store owner decided to see how many others were interested. It took off and now I can get all kinds of their products |
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Post by rahx3 on Jul 19, 2011 12:05:32 GMT -5
Yeah MDF shouldn't be too hard - Depends on how nice my boss is feeling I suppose.  However I'm wondering about another food now haha What can you guys tell me about Club Canines raw foods? www.clubcanine.net/cat-food.shtmlI threw a link up there to make it a bit easier |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2011 1:42:40 GMT -5
I've never heard of it but it looks decent
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Post by Sherry on Oct 13, 2011 7:45:23 GMT -5
Somehow, I completely missed this- obviously But yes, that looks pretty good! |
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