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Post by boogerybooger on Jan 27, 2017 20:48:02 GMT -5
older post that went nowhere
Jan 26, 2017 19:53:29 GMT -5 boogerybooger said:
Booger was on kibble and his treat was non-thermal dried raw. When I got the last bag of kibble, he started losing hair and some weight. I read reviews of the food and it said the co. had changed the formula and NOT to use it. I gradually phased it out. And for a while gave only the dried raw while attempting to introduce fresh raw.
Here's where we are now:
went from soup to puree easily and did the bits in puree well enough so I went to slivers. Up to now poop pretty good and variable as expected. Then I found undigested chicken in the runny poop and have been worried and went back to the puree.
Today: puree plus slivers all well until second dish of more puree and slivers --- partially digested slivers in poop.
Questions:
1)Is undigested chicken in poop normal?
2)How much organ meat can you introduce if giving the puree which has hearts and livers already? I acquired a pork kidney- is kidney one that is ok in bigger per centages?
3)Is a puddle of yellow poop normal after a raw egg?
4)Is canned cat food ok if needed since kibble is no more?
5)Can I give raw milk homemade kefir? If so how much? I make it for self and dogs daily. I read here that milk not good, but raw kefir is very different.
More info: Booger seems happy and healthy other than this thinness and poop stuff. Got great report last vet visit(October), but earlier 2015 he went through some hair loss and has been on melatonin which worked since, but now I understand that if he has AD, he needs DES implant.
He loves to play "get the sock or piggy out of the tube" and "run up and down the steps". He will be 4 in April.
Have appt scheduled for next week.
Sorry so many questions. Still finding my way around the posts, docs, etc. Also trying to get more posts.
I love this forum! Thank you all!
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Post by Sherry on Jan 28, 2017 11:20:23 GMT -5
1)Is undigested chicken in poop normal? Yes, it is at first 2)How much organ meat can you introduce if giving the puree which has hearts and livers already? I acquired a pork kidney- is kidney one that is ok in bigger per centages? Total diet amount needs to be 10% heart, 5% liver, 5% other organ(kidney etc). So no don't add extra into the soup itself. 3)Is a puddle of yellow poop normal after a raw egg? Yep- that is an egg poop  4)Is canned cat food ok if needed since kibble is no more? No different than feeding kibble except it is wet. You shouldn't need it though. 5)Can I give raw milk homemade kefir? If so how much? I make it for self and dogs daily. I read here that milk not good, but raw kefir is very different. Raw kefir is good after a dose of antibiotics. It shouldn't be needed otherwise. |
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Post by boogerybooger on Jan 28, 2017 14:10:46 GMT -5
Thank you, Sherry!!!  I'm doing my happy dance because Booger ate his first beef nibble today! He has not touched anything but chicken. Yesterday in wally world, I was looking for organ meats and lo and behold I found 100% grass-fed and grass-finished steak and hamburger! I actually got it for us but cut a tiny piece off the steak and gave Booger. He wouldn't have anything to do with it but then I rolled it in NU pro and he ate it!!! I tried to find stuff on here that referenced Nu pro and couldn't find anything. Sherry, what do you know about it? It certainly has helped with transitioning! As far as the kefir goes, I had a thought-- what makes the kefir is a colony of bacteria/yeast living together that originally was thought to come from a sheep's intestinal lining. Could ferrets then eat the "grains" that make the kefir? I wonder if they could benefit from those non milk jelly like things. Thanks so much for answering my questions above! Sorry I added some. So thanks for your patience with us newbies.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 16:36:45 GMT -5
is this the product you are using, nu pro "Description Treat your ferrets to a healthier life. NUPRO All Natural Ferret Supplement is specially designed to provide balanced protein, vitamins, minerals, and digestive enzymes to fortify their typical diet. Can be mixed or sprinkled on daily food or add water for a great gravy. What do ferret owners say about NUPRO? Stimulates appetite Helps digestion Promotes a healthy and full coat Helps strengthen immune system Fertility and potency in breeding Excellent for all ages Ingredients Include: Norwegian kelp, flaxseed, primary grown yeast, desiccated liver, bee pollen, garlic concentrate, steamed bone meal, lecithin, lactobicillus acidophilus. " If so, I would suggest not using it, as ferrets cannot process plant matter and garlic can be toxic to them. I would suggest using salmon oil instead. You are doing so great though! You figured out how to start a thread AND got him to eat beef! yay!!  |
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Post by boogerybooger on Jan 28, 2017 18:08:47 GMT -5
is this the product you are using, nu pro "Description Treat your ferrets to a healthier life. NUPRO All Natural Ferret Supplement is specially designed to provide balanced protein, vitamins, minerals, and digestive enzymes to fortify their typical diet. Can be mixed or sprinkled on daily food or add water for a great gravy. What do ferret owners say about NUPRO? Stimulates appetite Helps digestion Promotes a healthy and full coat Helps strengthen immune system Fertility and potency in breeding Excellent for all ages Ingredients Include: Norwegian kelp, flaxseed, primary grown yeast, desiccated liver, bee pollen, garlic concentrate, steamed bone meal, lecithin, lactobicillus acidophilus. " If so, I would suggest not using it, as ferrets cannot process plant matter and garlic can be toxic to them. I would suggest using salmon oil instead. You are doing so great though! You figured out how to start a thread AND got him to eat beef! yay!! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 18:15:09 GMT -5
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Post by boogerybooger on Jan 28, 2017 18:23:15 GMT -5
Thank you SO much! That's the product! I wondered about NU Pro. The vet office questioned it over the phone, but then said it couldn't hurt him.  What is a good brand/source for salmon oil? How do I entice him since he's never had it --- disguise it in food in a tiny amount? Thank you SO much again! I will give nu pro to my cats and dogs |
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Post by boogerybooger on Jan 28, 2017 18:26:47 GMT -5
I'm still figuring this posting replying stuff out  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 18:35:30 GMT -5
No need to apologize! It takes some getting use to  I personally use Grizzly brand salmon oil, I have heard of others using Yummy Chummys brand as well. At my local pet store in the dog and cat sections they have bottles of it, but you can order online as well. General rule of thumb is 1 teaspoon of salmon oil per ferret per week, you can split it up however you wish, I like to give a few drops per meal and I put a drop on their tummy and lay them on their back while they are on my lap to trim their nails. They hold still like perfect little angels and clean the yumminess off their tummy. To introduce it, let them smell it on your finger or a spoon, some will take to it right away without coaxing. As for mine, I simply mixed a tiny amount into their food until they got use to it! Now they'll climb up me to get to the bottle. |
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Post by boogerybooger on Jan 28, 2017 22:26:42 GMT -5
:thankyou:  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2017 2:21:48 GMT -5
Anytime!!
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Post by boogerybooger on Feb 3, 2017 0:04:10 GMT -5
Hi there!
Just curious if you or anyone knows how many drops of Grizzly salmon oil is in a teaspoon.
He's not taking to it alone just yet, but keeping on keeping on.
::big-smile::
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Post by LindaM on Feb 3, 2017 0:17:44 GMT -5
Not sure.. we just use a 5ml/1 tsp dose medicine dropper for our weekly oil measure. It has markings for every 1/4 tsp, and 1-5ml markings. We've found that simply works the easiest.
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Post by boogerybooger on Feb 3, 2017 1:12:15 GMT -5
Thank you! Need to get one!
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Post by LindaM on Feb 3, 2017 1:38:16 GMT -5
Try Amazon, they have some decent ones on there, and it was so much easier finding them online than in the stores and I'd looked everywhere, from pharmacies to baking supply.
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