Biotene Dental products

[ponyolovesham]

I give biotene dental stuff to my cats, the dental gel and the water additive
just curious as to if the water additive is safe for the ferrets?

[Deleted]

Not sure about biotene, but I know some of the other veterinary brand water additives (Oxyfresh I believe) are advertised as being safe for birds and small animals as well as cats and dogs.

That being said if your ferret is on or going to be on raw soon, I wouldn't bother. The meat and bone and tendons keeps their teeth so shiney clean that there's no tartar buildup for the biotene to prevent.

Plus who knows if all of those chemicals are really all that safe, and do you really want your ferret to be drinking that? And biotene additive is flavoured too isn't it? There's a chance your ferrets won't like the taste and not drink it which wouldn't be good.

Just my opinion

[ponyolovesham]

Ah ok, im just super paranoid because 2 of my poor cats have severe dental problems and I dont want anyone else going through that. The biotene gels have a bit of an odd taste (i tasted it) but the water additive doesnt. Supposedly the biotene brand has no chemicals, its all supposed to be natural enzymes and stuff. No alcohol, nothing.

[ponyolovesham]

I guess as a mommy to 7 babies (with more to come) im just always paranoid and trying to find the best thing for everyone

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May 25, 2011 18:07:37 GMT -5 @ponyolovesham said:

I guess as a mommy to 7 babies (with more to come) im just always paranoid and trying to find the best thing for everyone

I think we all are a bit paranoid to some degree It's fine.

If you are planning on getting them on a fully raw diet, their teeth will be sparkly clean

[Deleted]

Nothing wrong with that

personally I think the water additives (you can also put them in a spray bottle and spray directly into the mouth instead of putting it in the water) are awesome for cats and dogs, especially since most aren't on raw (mine aren't) and they are SO prone to dental disease.

But from what I've read / heard from vets the ferrets on raw all have perfect teeth and tartar / dental disease isn't really an issue for them.

If you still wanna use it for your ferret, I would wait to see if anyone more experienced with ferrets chimes in on whether or not biotene is safe for them though because I'm not too sure.

[ponyolovesham]

good to know im not alone, I"ll just be sticking with the raw and bones since that seems to be without a doubt the safest method that everyone recommends. Thanks guys!!!

[Sherry]

My cat's aren't on raw either, beyond snacks here and there. I've used a product called "LebaIII" to REALLY good effect. For your kitties, just a spray in the mouth once a day takes care of most, if not all, the tartar

[Deleted]

That stuff looks amazing Sherry! Did you get from a store? Or order it online?

[Sherry]

Actually, I get it at Tail Blazer's ;D But- it's NOT cheap! A one ounce bottle is $68.99 + tax But it's rated out to about 240 sprays for that ounce . So about 5 bottles for the year for my 4 cats.
Yes, it comes to more than a dental for them, but think- no anesthetic, no vet trip, and it takes place at home. I've also got two who cannot go under an anesthetic unless it's an emergency, so I like having this option.

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And it does what the reviews say and actually removes the tartar?
If so, that's such a reasonable price! Dentals at my clinic cost around $400 to start and that's only if tooth extractions aren't needed. Sure I have a discount, but I also have a yorkie poo who almost died from the anesthetic during her spay, and a 10 year old cat I wouldn't risk putting under so this product sounds incredible!

[Sherry]

Herne(our Siamese), has always refused to chew. Anything As you can imagine, the tartar builds up really bad really quickly with him. Thick, and blackish brown.
I started using it for him. Two to three weeks later, I was actually able to "flick" large chunks of tartar off easily with my pinkie nail While it didn't get ALL of it off for him, the difference was amazing!
The others had minimal plaque, and it appears to have removed pretty much all of it.
The one drawback to it is that it is stabilized in a 25% mix of ethyl alcohol. But the amount they get is minimal.
Don't know if you are planning to use it on cats, but just to let you know- I've got to hide the bottle behind my back when I track them down. Otherwise, as soon as they see that blue bottle, they are gone
They don't like that shot in the mouth at all ;D

[goingpostal]

;D Sherry I was just going to ask how you manage to shoot that into your kitties mouths! My cat doesn't even like me looking in hers and I think I'd be bleeding daily if I tried to put anything in it. Luckily she eats bones no problem and has good teeth anyways.

[Sherry]

I got used to pilling two different cats over a period of years. I'm fast ;D

[Sherry]

Thought I'd write Lebalab, and ask them about the ethyl alchohol in the dental spray. Wrote yesterday, got a response today!!!

Hello Sherry.

Leba III has been used by veterinarians since 1994 with no side effects. The
ethyl alcohol is human food grade and used as a stabilizer, so that the
product will not go bad. The amount in 1 spray of Leba III is minimal,
25% ethyl alcohol and 75% herbs and water. It will be further diluted with the saliva
where the action takes place.

Leba III is the safest dental product to be used for the lifetime of pets.
Compare all the chemicals used in other dental products.

If your pet has trouble metabolizing alcohol, it can be diluted with equal
amounts of distilled water before each treatment. See info attached.

If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to call us [phone].
Thank you for your interest

Walter

Office 1-519-542-4236
Fax:[phone]

Order desk, toll free number:
1-866-LEBALAB(532-2522)

Email: [e-mail]
Website: www.lebalab.com

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