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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2016 11:22:08 GMT -5
Thank you for the more indepth explanations, this is what I was hoping for. I don't mean to come across as snotty when I say "but WHY?", I just truly want to know and can't accept "if it ain't broke" logic as an answer. I can see I raised some suspicion and annoyance accidentally. Think of me asking about how ferrets process vegetables differently than omnivores the same way you think about people asking about how ferrets process different aspects of animals, as trying to work out my own reasons to include or disclude new items. Like learning to balance a frankenprey menu on my own instead of just going to the vault and copying what other people did without knowing the why's and how's- if I run out of something, I'll know how to replace it. Just because I ask about feeding veggies doesn't mean I'm gonna start tossing him salad willynilly, but I DO want to know the mechanisms behind using them as fiber, you get what I'm saying? The lovely thing about the forum is that we are open to discussion and unless someone flames the person or is insulting which is not allowed, then we all learn a little. Your discussion did not get a bunch of drama. All I saw was Ferrents wanting to make sure that you understood so it was overall a great thread for learning.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2016 11:26:12 GMT -5
Oh I actually forgot to ask another thing, how can pumpkin be made more palatable? Can I mix eggs and chicken bouillon into it? Some really love pumpkin but when I had to do a blockage protocol then I found mine hated it. They loved the vaseline though, go figure. Add some warm water and thin it down. You can also put a drop of oil in it. I used a large syringe and syringed it carefully while administering it. Stay away from chicken bouillon though, it has too much salt added. You could flavor it with some pure boiled chicken water but don't add anything else but some water that has had a little chicken boiled in it. Try to always keep a can of pumpkin handy. These emergencies always happen when the store is closed or out of pumpkin.
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Post by Corvidophile on Mar 5, 2016 11:39:10 GMT -5
So like homemade chicken stock without seasoning or vegetables, just a carcass? I think I'll make some of this, reduce it, and freeze it into little ice cubes. And then reserve the salmon oil for flavoring the Vaseline.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2016 11:42:15 GMT -5
So like homemade chicken stock without seasoning or vegetables, just a carcass? I think I'll make some of this, reduce it, and freeze it into little ice cubes. And then reserve the salmon oil for flavoring the Vaseline. That sounds like an excellent idea. Just the chicken and nothing else. You probably will find they don't need any help accepting the vaseline. Put a tiny bit on your finger and see if they lick it off. It's not a treat and should only be used for a blockage protocol but a one time tiny taste will tell you.
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Post by Corvidophile on Mar 5, 2016 12:02:13 GMT -5
I did try a few months ago just as I tried the pumpkin, I wanted to see if he'd accept it. He did give it a few licks but quickly got bored. I used the rest of the glob I took out to grease my oven tray edges so they wouldn't squeak when pulled actually, haha.
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Post by gfountain on Mar 5, 2016 20:43:18 GMT -5
You just never know what ferrets will and won't like. I've done the blockage protocol twice. In my house, whenever one gets something 'special' they think they all have to try it so out of curiosity I did just what poncesmom suggested and put some of each on my finger to see if they liked it. I have 4 ferrets - one (the one that was getting the first protocol) loved the Vaseline but thought the pumpkin was poison; the second (who got the second protocol) tried to literally dive head first into the pumpkin and would have eaten the whole can but getting the Vaseline down him was an all-out battle and took 2 adults and an unreasonable amount of salmon oil; the third only got a tiny lick and loved both pumpkin and Vaseline; the fourth also only got a tiny lick and acting like he was dying with both flavors, rolling around on the floor gasping and clutching his face (he's very dramatic lol).
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Post by bitbyter on Mar 5, 2016 20:50:13 GMT -5
That's another great thing about pumpkin. You can put it into a large syringe. It is for emergency use after all. It's not about them "liking" it. Them not wanting to eat it vs. them dying is an easy choice in my book I don't have that problem with Wilma...
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Post by gfountain on Mar 5, 2016 22:12:57 GMT -5
That's another great thing about pumpkin. You can put it into a large syringe. It is for emergency use after all. It's not about them "liking" it. Them not wanting to eat it vs. them dying is an easy choice in my book Exactly right! Poor Wilma.
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Post by Corvidophile on Mar 6, 2016 10:17:10 GMT -5
Oh yeah, I wasn't thinking of just giving up getting it inside if he didn't like it, it's just so much easier if I can get it in him willingly.
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Post by Sherry on Mar 6, 2016 11:10:41 GMT -5
I use a bit of oil, and warm it very slightly.
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