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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2015 19:47:50 GMT -5
CeleneWe're going to give her egg, oils, and pumpkin to help move anything left along. :3 I'll bet she already feels so much better for vomiting it up. We'll see how she's doing over the next few days and if there's no improvement, she'll be off to the vet.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2015 10:19:51 GMT -5
Poor little girl. Are you familiar with the blockage protocol.
One tablespoon of pure pumpkin One hour later a teaspoon of vaseline One hour later a tablespoon of pure pumpkin One hour later a teaspoon of vaseline Then wait for a nice big orange poop or two or three. Look thru them and see if anything has come out of her. Good luck and if you see her show any signs of distress, take her to the vet and ask for a Barium Xray.
I don't know any other body types, just the Whippet and Bulldog body types.
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Post by Celene on Feb 20, 2015 10:24:01 GMT -5
So your post got me thinking, and I figured it couldn't hurt to give my girlies 1/2 a yolk each "just in case". Went out for a nice dinner with my husband and came home to this: I blame you. (Not sure why it's grainy though, Mo's poops have been like that for a few days and I'm keeping an eye on her). Anyway, how is Moses doing now? Eating more?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2015 14:09:59 GMT -5
So your post got me thinking, and I figured it couldn't hurt to give my girlies 1/2 a yolk each "just in case". Went out for a nice dinner with my husband and came home to this: I blame you. (Not sure why it's grainy though, Mo's poops have been like that for a few days and I'm keeping an eye on her). Anyway, how is Moses doing now? Eating more? A nice romantic dinner with your husband and then home to ferret poo. Yep, you're a ferrent, lol The grainy parts (seedy) are undigested fats. The yellowish color looks like a normal egg poo.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2015 15:47:22 GMT -5
Poor little girl. Are you familiar with the blockage protocol. One tablespoon of pure pumpkin One hour later a teaspoon of vaseline One hour later a tablespoon of pure pumpkin One hour later a teaspoon of vaseline Then wait for a nice big orange poop or two or three. Look thru them and see if anything has come out of her. Good luck and if you see her show any signs of distress, take her to the vet and ask for a Barium Xray. I don't know any other body types, just the Whippet and Bulldog body types. Yep! I know the protocol. She is beginning to poop out more than she had before (they were thin-looking), though we didn't see anything in it. But I still take the quantity as a good sign. It's hard for Moses. She likes vaseline, but she really, really hates pumpkin. Elisha is the one who is all over pumpkin. This morning she was heaving and acting as if to vomit some more, but she didn't vomit up anything. We're going to continue to keep a close eye on her. We've a winter storm warning and are about to be completely snowed in, I believe.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2015 15:49:35 GMT -5
Anyway, how is Moses doing now? Eating more? Ick at that pic! lol She still isn't wanting to eat, but I can understand why. She may still feel uncomfortable. We'll see how she does over the weekend. :3
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Post by Celene on Feb 20, 2015 17:55:07 GMT -5
A nice romantic dinner with your husband and then home to ferret poo. Yep, you're a ferrent, lol The grainy parts (seedy) are undigested fats. The yellowish color looks like a normal egg poo. I know the egg poop. I think she's been having digestive issues because she had explosive diarrhea earlier this week and since her poop seems to be switching between very small (not skinny, just small) and dark brown, or very loose and super seedy. She seems fine though, I'm keeping a close eye on her but don't really know what else to do. Muse, have you tried putting pumpkin seed oil atop the pumpkin puree? At this point oil can only help move things along Just make sure she keeps hydrated. I usually either like to put a couple drops of oil on top of water, or mix a tiny bit of meat with some water to make a "meat flavoured" water.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2015 21:52:41 GMT -5
She drinks just fine, is the odd thing. She is drinking, but is not wanting to eat. We just syringed some watered down soupie into her and you can tell she is definitely feeling unwell. She's standing there...mouthing? Like the kind of thing people and pets do when they feel they want to vomit.
If we can fit her in, and I sure as heck will stress it is possibly an emergency, we're taking her in to the vet tomorrow. Snow storm or no snow storm.
EDIT:
8 minutes since syringing her food. She has decided to start running around again and so far as kept her food down. I think this is a good sign.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2015 11:37:35 GMT -5
How's she doing now? Any signs of stress?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2015 16:50:55 GMT -5
How's she doing now? Any signs of stress? I managed to get her to a vet Monday. I was given some special fluids and carnivore care since she is underweight. So far she has wonderfully been keeping both of those down! She is also eating at kibble if she is offered any. I'm wondering if it really was the fact she didn't like chicken that she chose to starve herself, or if she is sending me a loud and clear message she wants to eat kibble. I ordered some turkey and lamb this time. She always ate the turkey quite well, so I'm going to offer it to her when it arrives and see what she thinks. Today after a night of fluids and carnivore care, she's doing brilliantly. She's awake and incredibly high-strung and active...which is typical Moses. Never sitting still!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2015 17:05:37 GMT -5
I'm glad that she is doing much better. They really can be stubborn sometimes about switching. Naturally, she would prefer to continue eating kibble. It's junk food and everyone loves junk food. She's going to be playing you, so you just want to be persistent and patient. Get Moses weight up and work with her slowly. You don't want her to hold out for the kibble and she will, if she thinks that it will work. You're only one month into this. That's not a long time. Maybe you should take a step back and go back to soupies. bitbyter has a little girl who has an intolerance to the hormones in grocery store chicken. I wonder if that's her problem and she is sensitive to it and the sensitivity causes her some distress, so she refuses to eat it. I tagged him and let's see what he thinks.
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Post by bitbyter on Feb 22, 2015 20:39:22 GMT -5
Actually @poncesmom I'm not sure what it is about poultry (all poultry affects her but to different degrees). We don't have hormones in our meat up here so it's not that. She has EE which means that her body treats certain foods like an allergy but doesn't stop there, the immune system actually attacks the digestive tract. Wilma's poops ALWAYS look like heart / ulcer poops (black and tarry) basically because her digestive system is so inflamed. Luckily I can control it with a small dose of pred every 5 days.
Food sensitivities do seem to be something that raw feeders have to be aware of. If your ferret seems to dislike a certain thing, try something else.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2015 14:46:03 GMT -5
I ran out of food 2 days ago. The solution? Ground up a steak (MY DINNER ;_;) into a soupie and offer it. They kinda licked at it at first, but it's been a big hit since then. The bowl has been emptied every time.
It's a good thing they appreciate it, because I scarified a good steak I was going to eat for them. <_< lol.
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Post by Celene on Feb 24, 2015 20:39:31 GMT -5
Good job! Just remember that they can't live on just steak because they need the nutrients from hearts, organs and bones/eggshell powder bitbyter - what are the symptoms of a food sensitivity? Mocha gets grainy poops that seem to correlate with chicken meals. I'd like to try on a chicken-free diet for awhile but at the moment the only bone they're eating is CGH. I'm going to try and find some quail or rabbit on the weekend though.
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Post by bitbyter on Feb 24, 2015 21:18:43 GMT -5
Unusually really bad diarrhea. It can take time to build to that level though.
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