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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2014 11:22:45 GMT -5
Oh, you're awesome. Thank you.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2014 11:24:52 GMT -5
Update on Smokey: He had his teeth cleaned yesterday and didn't have to have any pulled!! There is still a fair amount of discoloration on his teeth but I am impressed with how clean they were able to get them I can't wait for her to start showing signs of how much better he feels. Two nights ago, he really came out of his shell. He was playing with the girls more enthusiastically than he has ever before. And what really made me so happy was that they were really playing back, which they hadn't done much of yet. I wonder if he was depressed and it took the first couple weeks for him to start to come out of it. Whatever it is, I was so happy to see him happy and energetic. Now that his teeth are clean and he doesn't have all that awful bacteria floating around in his body, he is going to feel even better. As for the possible insulinoma, his BG was 113. They said that was within the normal range so they are not concerned about insulinoma right now. Does that sound right to you? All in all, I am very pleased to have a healthy boy. I was not expecting him to be fully healthy given what he's gone through. Yay!
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Post by bitbyter on Dec 22, 2014 11:23:38 GMT -5
Yep those BG numbers are fine. Great news about his teeth!! That must be such a relief!
So where are we in regards to getting back into the swing of things with your switch?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2014 20:04:40 GMT -5
Yes, a HUGE relief!! Merry Christmas to us I called the co op today, the store that is supposed to get the goat in. Now the meat manager says he's not going to get a goat in until after the new year and then they will get into normally ordering a goat every other week. I'm trying to be patient but it's tough. On the other hand, I don't know that I have much choice. The meat manager told me that he had to change how things were done with ordering the goats because they were coming in a way that "wasn't up to his standards." I'm not sure what that means and he was fairly vague. I asked if he had doubts about the quality. He said no. He said it had to do with the transporting and timing and he needs to wait until after the new year to get a new system in place with the provider. I really don't know what much of that means I guess but I'm really hoping that the order will be placed soon after the new year like he says. I told him the situation I'm in and why I'm getting antsy to get my hands on some goat mean. I also asked if it was safe for me to rely on him to get it within the first week or two of January. He said yes. That's all I have to go on so I hope I can rely on it. I really want to get back going on this.
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Post by bitbyter on Dec 24, 2014 10:50:26 GMT -5
any chance of finding it anywhere else? It is always best to have at least two suppliers of what you need in case of issues (as you are experiencing now).
Where do you live again (what city)?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2014 14:30:28 GMT -5
Good news! I think I have a lead on a new supplier! Someone sarcastically asked me on facebook what my babies would be eating on Christmas and acting as if it was a legitimate question (because in my world, it is:) ) I said if I had it my way, my babies would be eating goat meat but I can't find any goat meat around here. This person replied that she buys goat meat from "Anwar" at some international market in town to make curries. I never would have guessed!! I am going to stop there today. Hopefully I can buy some today too.
Maybe it doesn't matter now that I hopefully have a more reliable source but I live in Rochester, Minnesota. I'll update you on what I find!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2014 17:32:34 GMT -5
I bought 2 pounds of of goat liver, 2 pounds of goat kidney, and 2 pounds of regular goat meat (I think shoulder). I feel so successful! haha! I only wish I would have known to look there sooner. I thought it was just a restaurant but there's a market there too. Now I know And it was clean and looked reputable. I met a nice Muslim man there that I assume shops there regularly because he knew Anwar by name. I just assume that he wasn't the type of person to buy food from a questionable place....The organ meat is not marked as goat but the butcher and the man running the till (I'm guessing the owner, Anwar) both said it was goat. So I guess we will go with it? I'll freeze if for now for the required 72 hours. Is that right? and we can get the show back on the road sometime on Tuesday, right? Thanks again for hanging in there with us! We are excited to get going again!
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Post by bitbyter on Dec 26, 2014 17:47:55 GMT -5
You don't have to freeze non-game meats. If it is being sold for human consumption it has already been inspected for parasites.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2014 9:47:54 GMT -5
Ok, so what should I do now?
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Post by bitbyter on Dec 27, 2014 14:53:38 GMT -5
make up a batch of goat soup. Follow the regular recipe but sub in goat where it says chicken.
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Post by bitbyter on Dec 28, 2014 15:15:39 GMT -5
Have you tried them with the goat soup yet? How did it go?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2014 10:20:27 GMT -5
Nope, I'm thawing it out today and I'll try it tonight and let you know.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2014 1:04:14 GMT -5
So, I made the soup and offered to the everyone. No one wanted any. Then i mixed a raw egg in since the girls really loved that treat before. The one who had the most, was Bea, as I would have expected. I dabbed some in all of their mouths. Pearl acted semi interested, sniffing around, licking at the plate and maybe eating a minuscule amount but otherwise was uninterested. Smokey didn't run away immediately but wasn't too interested either. I left the plate in their cage with their kibble. I know they shouldn't have the two types of food within a couple hours of each other, but I'm quite confident no one is going to have any soup, or enough for it to make their tummys uncomfortable over night. If anyone will, it will be Bea and of that's the case, she'd probablh just stick to the soup and ditch the kibble all together. That's how she was before we fell off the switch wagon last time around.
What do you suggest I do now? Just keep dabbing the food in their mouths and hope they start to like it soon? They should have their kibble at all times still, right?
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Post by bitbyter on Dec 31, 2014 11:13:28 GMT -5
Yes, you are going to have to start right from the beginning to teach them it is edible. The standard practice is to pull their kibble and about 4 hours later sit down with them and do a nose dabbing / lip smearing session every ten minutes or so. You can also see if they will lick some off your fingers for those that are more interested. Do that for a while and then give them back their kibble.
Once they are reliably eating / licking from your finger, then you slowly start leading them to the plate.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2015 11:33:43 GMT -5
Man, this stage is so tough! I hope they get back into it quickly! Oh well. The life of a ferrent.... On the positive side, I just had an old 10.1 cu foot freezer delivered to my house yesterday. It belonged to some elderly relatives that passed it down to my mom and I when they passed away a few years ago. It's been sitting in my mom's garage bc she didn't have a use for it. Now that I have a use for it, it's mine! My bf has to figure out where to run an extension cord to and plug it in for me (I am not digging around that cob webby basement!) and then I'll have a place to stash lots of goodies! So exciting
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