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Post by teric506 on Mar 28, 2011 20:27:33 GMT -5
Ok I will try the others on turkey when I get back to the store this week. I made Jessie some freeze dried lamb tonight and so far she has stuck her nose up at it. I am hoping she will eat it tonight while we r sleeping. Does it matter what types of hearts and that I give the other girls?y husband suggested getting beef heart and liver and just cut them into pieces and freeze them. Them we could get the whole chickens and Cornish game hens too.
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Post by teric506 on Mar 28, 2011 20:30:22 GMT -5
Oh ya I forgot to ask you, how to you chop up a whole chicken?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2011 21:13:22 GMT -5
Any heart and liver is fine for now if you can get more animal variety, that's great though. Yeah, lamb is a bit tricky. Different than chicken. I would dab a bit on her nose and spoon feed a bit to help her get a taste for it. So for whole chickens, I chop off arms and legs and bag those as meals. They usually have necks inside, and some liver and gizzards. I take those out and bag them. I usually use a good pair of kitchen shears and cut through most of the bones. I also use my Ulu knife (you can get one from HurricaneKatt - they're pretty cheap) to chop bigger bones. Then I use my scissors and cut up the side and split the chicken in two. I use a knife and slice the breast off and keep that for human meals. The rest I just chop, weigh a days worth of meat (about 12 oz for my 3) bag and label if it's bone in or bone out. It helps to have a lot of counter space. Or to do it in the sink. The chickens have a lot of juice that comes out
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2011 22:11:43 GMT -5
Video for chopping chicken
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Post by teric506 on Mar 29, 2011 6:40:58 GMT -5
Jessie ate the lamb last night woohoo!!! Thanks for the link to the video. I think I will pick up a whole chicken over the weekend.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2011 10:56:20 GMT -5
Yay! Let me know how her stools look!
That's great - I find the whole chickens are perfect for saving money. It also gives bone variety.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2011 1:48:36 GMT -5
Also, if you can, let me know if you see any mucous in Jesses stools. If they are just seedy but not mucousy, it could just be her adjusted to a lot of new changes. If they have a lot of mucous, are jelly like, it very well may be a sensitivity to chicken. Let me know if she does better on the lamb. Pork is also a good meat to try because it's similar to chicken and usually pretty cheap. I think the other two are definitely ready for a new protein, so whatever you can get we'll work on next. I'd also like to add that olive oil can make a great treat. Fish oil is equally good. Some don't like olive oil, some love it. I use it to entice my kids to try something new Just to make sure, are you interested in feeding whole prey like mice, rats, quail? If not, it's perfectly fine but it'd be good to introduce now while Josie and jasmine are young Let me know
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Post by teric506 on Mar 30, 2011 8:42:32 GMT -5
Hi Jackie,
Sometimes Jessie's stools look seedy and mucousy but not all the time. Her stools were still pretty seedy yesterday so I am hoping it will just take a couple of days to get used to the lamb. She is eating it pretty well now.
Thats a really good question about the whole prey, Ill have to think on that one. If I did could I do frozen thawed mice?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2011 9:19:38 GMT -5
Okay I'd add the probiotics when you get them You could definitely do frozen/thawed whole prey. Let me know what you think about it:)
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Post by teric506 on Mar 30, 2011 13:22:13 GMT -5
ok, I will add the probiotics as soon as I get them, they should be here by the end of the week I am hoping.
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Post by teric506 on Mar 30, 2011 19:28:08 GMT -5
I got the probiotics today and gave them to Jessie with her dinner so hopefully her stools will start looking better. They still looked crappy today so I am glad that came in today. I am probably not going to feed the younger ones whole prey because when I told my husband about it he looked at me like I had two heads. How long does it normally take to see a difference with the probiotics?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2011 19:42:58 GMT -5
I'd give it a couple days to a week. Hopefully the stools look better soon. Fingers crossed! It's fine about the whole prey Some find it a bit easier, because everything is already balanced and easy, but they will be just as healthy on raw meats as long as we get them eating everything they need
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Post by teric506 on Mar 31, 2011 6:37:58 GMT -5
ok sounds like a plan. I noticed when I was feeding the younger girls this morning that now they have seedy stools but they are still a brownish color not yellow and green like Jessie's. They are still formed, just seedy looking. Is it normal for them not to go to the bathroom as much as Jessie does? I am going to try to give them some chicken gizzards and hearts for dinner toinght and see how they do. I figured I would sprinkle some probiotics along with some or ferretone on them tonight. My husband also said we have some venison in the freezer downstairs so I was wondering what you thought about trying that with the two younger ones as well?
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Post by teric506 on Mar 31, 2011 6:41:55 GMT -5
With the prozyme do I just follow the directions on the container? It says 1/4 tsp per 1cup of food. That is what I did but now I am not sure if it was too much or too little.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2011 9:39:58 GMT -5
I wouldn't worry too much about the other two. Make sure they continue to eat/drink/potty normal and make sure they stay hydrated Now that we've tried another protein with Jesse and the stools are still yucky, i think we should explore other possible causes. I want to say its not a chicken sensitivity, but she could be having a flare up which is giving her all around back stools. It could be a bacterial overgrowth. Ill post back in a bit with more information on Jesse I will also find the dosing for the probiotics for you. Venison it great! I would definitely give it a go! Remember that its a boneless meat, and try should be only having 4 boneless meals a week. The heart and gizzards are also boneless meals. They will have kinda icky stools on hearts, so just be warned. You can also try feeding the heart with a bone in meal at night to help balance the stools out
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