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Post by jamien18 on Mar 26, 2018 16:48:58 GMT -5
She's not wanting the soup at all shes not even eating the kibble now either and still has funny poops when she goes
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Post by LindaM on Mar 26, 2018 16:50:29 GMT -5
Not when fed from spoon or finger even?
I really think she needs to see a vet, just to make sure something else isn't going on.
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Post by jamien18 on Mar 26, 2018 16:55:36 GMT -5
Not when fed from spoon or finger even? I really think she needs to see a vet, just to make sure something else isn't going on. she'll eat alittle off my finger or the spoon. She is drinking water though. And I know I really need to get her in but I don't get paid for another 2 weeks and I read up on the care card and most of what you pay is interest And she is wanting out to walk around also
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Post by LindaM on Mar 27, 2018 0:47:01 GMT -5
CareCredit works by paying the bill outright at the vet, then you owe that amount on the card (much like any other credit card), which depending on the amount you pay at the vet can come with terms of needing to be paid off in FULL within 3, 6, 12 or 18 months. You pay a monthly amount until it is paid off, on a month that is tight you can pay the minimum amount, or on a month that is good you can pay off more. Believe me, I got my card originally when I needed to get a $3000 LASIK eye surgery done and they don't do the surgery unless you pay it in full ahead of time, we got 18 months to pay it all off in, some months we paid a minimum amount of $100 or something (your minimum per month depends on the amount you used), and when we got our tax return we paid the almost 2/3rds that remained at that time off in full when we got closer to the 18 month mark to avoid paying interest.
You will need to spend a lot of time with her during the day to get her eating, and please weigh her food so you can tell how much she is getting in. She needs to eat at least 1-2oz of food daily. A ferret that doesn't want to eat anything at all can be in grave danger, as you recall it being listed in those 10 situations that your ferret MUST get to a vet.
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Post by jamien18 on Mar 27, 2018 10:07:25 GMT -5
CareCredit works by paying the bill outright at the vet, then you owe that amount on the card (much like any other credit card), which depending on the amount you pay at the vet can come with terms of needing to be paid off in FULL within 3, 6, 12 or 18 months. You pay a monthly amount until it is paid off, on a month that is tight you can pay the minimum amount, or on a month that is good you can pay off more. Believe me, I got my card originally when I needed to get a $3000 LASIK eye surgery done and they don't do the surgery unless you pay it in full ahead of time, we got 18 months to pay it all off in, some months we paid a minimum amount of $100 or something (your minimum per month depends on the amount you used), and when we got our tax return we paid the almost 2/3rds that remained at that time off in full when we got closer to the 18 month mark to avoid paying interest. You will need to spend a lot of time with her during the day to get her eating, and please weigh her food so you can tell how much she is getting in. She needs to eat at least 1-2oz of food daily. A ferret that doesn't want to eat anything at all can be in grave danger, as you recall it being listed in those 10 situations that your ferret MUST get to a vet. I'll try to get her to the vet as soon as I can. Do you have any idea of what they would wanna do? So I know so I can call and ask how much everything will run
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Post by jamien18 on Mar 27, 2018 23:48:17 GMT -5
Took a while today but I got her to eat 1oz
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Post by LindaM on Mar 28, 2018 13:32:16 GMT -5
Sorry for the late response, was a bit of a hectic day yesterday. Definitely get an overall check-up, make sure they check ears for mites and check to see if there's any teeth or mouth issues, ask for a BG test, usually the ferret would be fasted for 3-4 hrs before the visit, but with a ferret you don't know the medical history of, I won't risk it and instead just ask the vet, they may wish to do that wait period with her there to see if anything happens in that time or not, just to be safe. I'd also have them do a stool sample, to check for ECE and such. Mention that she's not really wanting to eat any food, try to avoid mentioning she is starting on raw (some vets will not even bother diagnosing the actual problem and just say it's because of the raw, and you never know which kind of vet you're getting), the vet should know what to look for and what they'd like to test when it comes to that, they may also want to run some sub-q fluids if they feels she's dehydrated.
I'm very happy that she's eaten at least that today. I'd still try a bit later to see if she wants a little more. How has she been doing energy-wise? Drinking? Pooping and peeing okay?
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Post by jamien18 on Mar 28, 2018 16:30:54 GMT -5
Sorry for the late response, was a bit of a hectic day yesterday. Definitely get an overall check-up, make sure they check ears for mites and check to see if there's any teeth or mouth issues, ask for a BG test, usually the ferret would be fasted for 3-4 hrs before the visit, but with a ferret you don't know the medical history of, I won't risk it and instead just ask the vet, they may wish to do that wait period with her there to see if anything happens in that time or not, just to be safe. I'd also have them do a stool sample, to check for ECE and such. Mention that she's not really wanting to eat any food, try to avoid mentioning she is starting on raw (some vets will not even bother diagnosing the actual problem and just say it's because of the raw, and you never know which kind of vet you're getting), the vet should know what to look for and what they'd like to test when it comes to that, they may also want to run some sub-q fluids if they feels she's dehydrated. I'm very happy that she's eaten at least that today. I'd still try a bit later to see if she wants a little more. How has she been doing energy-wise? Drinking? Pooping and peeing okay? I'll definitely call them and see. She's been wanting out every time she sees me biting the cage and scratching to get out that's why I'm confused on what's going on and, she's going to the bathroom but it's still runny
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Post by LindaM on Mar 28, 2018 16:45:20 GMT -5
Is she still eating any kibble? Or are you just feeding her the raw soup right now? Soup is on the runnier side of food, so it can make some softer, runnier poops, but it shouldn't cause diarrhea level of runny either. Have you tried making the soupie with the 3/4tsp instead of the 1/2tsp bonemeal/powdered egg shell?
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Post by jamien18 on Mar 28, 2018 16:55:23 GMT -5
Is she still eating any kibble? Or are you just feeding her the raw soup right now? Soup is on the runnier side of food, so it can make some softer, runnier poops, but it shouldn't cause diarrhea level of runny either. Have you tried making the soupie with the 3/4tsp instead of the 1/2tsp bonemeal/powdered egg shell? I offer the kibble in her cage but it doesn't look like she's touched it and yeah I'm doing 3/4th tsp now
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Post by LindaM on Mar 28, 2018 17:17:44 GMT -5
Could be she's doing what my own bunch did, once I got them onto the raw, they simply refused eating kibble (my cat was still kibble-fed at the time and got the same blend the ferrets used to, but they showed zero interest in it). Just make sure she does gets at least that 1-2oz of soup into her. If you need to offer several times in the day, then so be it, as long as she gets food in her. The soup will help keep her hydrated as well compared to the kibble. Does this wee girl accept a treat of salmon oil by any chance? Or a little raw egg yolk? I know we've been very busy with just her the last few days, but how are the other two doing with their food? What stage are they currently on? Any progress moving them along?
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Post by jamien18 on Mar 28, 2018 18:15:08 GMT -5
Could be she's doing what my own bunch did, once I got them onto the raw, they simply refused eating kibble (my cat was still kibble-fed at the time and got the same blend the ferrets used to, but they showed zero interest in it). Just make sure she does gets at least that 1-2oz of soup into her. If you need to offer several times in the day, then so be it, as long as she gets food in her. The soup will help keep her hydrated as well compared to the kibble. Does this wee girl accept a treat of salmon oil by any chance? Or a little raw egg yolk? I know we've been very busy with just her the last few days, but how are the other two doing with their food? What stage are they currently on? Any progress moving them along? Could I leave the soup in there a few hours and see if she'll eat it on her own then? I haven't offered her any treats yet. I'm still waiting to get the oil and they're doing good on it I'm doing the small slivers right now and they seem to be eating them good
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Post by LindaM on Mar 28, 2018 18:52:46 GMT -5
You can definitely leave the soup in for her and see what she does with it, just make sure she eats enough overall in the day, even if you have to spoon feed to get that done for now. Okay, I was wondering if a tiny bit of incentive may help her eat from the bowl, but that's okay if you don't have any of the oil.
Small slivers only, no longer with soup? If so, you can start slowly increasing the size of the slivers. If you're still adding soup to theirs, start decreasing that till you aren't adding anymore and it's just slivers.
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Post by jamien18 on Mar 28, 2018 20:19:45 GMT -5
You can definitely leave the soup in for her and see what she does with it, just make sure she eats enough overall in the day, even if you have to spoon feed to get that done for now. Okay, I was wondering if a tiny bit of incentive may help her eat from the bowl, but that's okay if you don't have any of the oil. Small slivers only, no longer with soup? If so, you can start slowly increasing the size of the slivers. If you're still adding soup to theirs, start decreasing that till you aren't adding anymore and it's just slivers. Do they really like the salmon oil? If so I'll get some to see if it helps her eat. And yeah it's still with the soup but it's not blended that good and I put slivers in with it
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Post by LindaM on Mar 29, 2018 0:47:14 GMT -5
You may need to introduce the oil. But yes, salmon oil is a healthy treat to give. It can be used to introduce new proteins in food too, sparingly, and lessened until it's not used at all on the new protein, but it can help give that jump-start.
The other two have been on that a while now, we need to move them on away from having the soup at all, just slivers, so we can start increasing the size of those too and get them moving finally to large chunks, so you can introduce bones too. Have you offered any heart or liver slivers yet, or just muscle meat slivers?
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