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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2017 11:58:13 GMT -5
My Pelmenello has adrenal(not very responsive to treatments), right now getting every month Lupron; he also has insulinoma (takes low dose of Dexameth).... he is obese(loves his soupies and meat, no kibble) 4,5lb about 5-6 years old (I don’t know maybe more)
So... I want to take him for walks outside so he starts to move at least a little(now the weather is good- we are in Texas)
His last shots were done over 4 years ago (when I found him on the street)
I am not a fan of vaccination and I’ve read that once a ferret has insulinoma and adrenal, he should not be vaccinated anyway...
is it safe to take him outside? What do I do?
He’s never caged but he just doesn’t want to move around cause he’s a lazy butt.
Also how can I make him lose a little weight without damaging his health?
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Post by Heather on Sept 26, 2017 14:25:36 GMT -5
You can try doing a titre draw and see how that goes. Depending on where you are the cost can be high.
The two diseases that one is most concerned about is distemper and rabies. Both these diseases have to be reported. Check the reports in your area. In some areas distemper has been reported and is a concern. In those cases I would weigh my options and the degree of risk (life is all about risk taking and it's variables....driving a car is a risk, but most of us take it). Myself, personally....I would never vaccinate a "sick" (and your lad is very sick) animal, especially when it comes to adrenal affects the immune system
Just my take on this
ciao
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Post by LindaM on Sept 26, 2017 14:37:50 GMT -5
I agree with Heather completely. A sick animal should never be vaccinated, the risk of a severely adverse reaction such as anaphylaxis is just too high. And sometimes, much as the vet will try to help, they cannot always save the animal when that happens.
Technically, most vaccines last around 7 or so years, but doing the Titer Test will allow them to see how the levels of antibodies are doing, as sometimes a vaccine doesn't take quite right depending on when it has been done. While indeed costly at many places, you may be able to put it on a payment plan by using something like a CareCredit card (a real lifesaver when owning ferrets).
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Post by Heather on Sept 26, 2017 14:59:19 GMT -5
My concern in this case isn't anaphylaxis though it really should be considered. My concern is with the immune system being able to cope. A healthy immune system will react (or should react) to the vaccine by staging a fight against the invading disease. That's why we sometimes feel so crappy after a vaccine. The next time it's encountered the immune system will recognise it from the vaccine and before it can invade and take over (a simple description)the immune system will destroy it. When a ferret has a serious illness like adrenal, insulinoma, it's immune system becomes compromised. It's either so busy fighting the existing disease or so damaged that it can no longer cope with the vaccine's disease. It either fails to recognise the new invader or feels overwhelmed and refuses to recognise the invader. This creates one of two scenarios...either the body shuts down completely because it's overwhelmed or it does nothing. The does nothing is just as dangerous as the anaphylaxis......you now believe you're covered. You gave the vaccine...your in the clear, you've got nothing to worry about...wrong. You're not covered. The body does not recognise because it never mounted an immunity...it shut down. The end result? the disease that you vaccinated against invades the body. The body may even recognise the invader but because it didn't fight it the first time (failed response) it does nothing against the live virus.
A short simple lesson on a very complicated subject
ciao
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