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Post by pegleg on Oct 10, 2017 18:40:32 GMT -5
LindaM The cat's response was to carry eat mouthful to another room and eat there.
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Post by LindaM on Oct 10, 2017 18:42:13 GMT -5
..what a little... s..fudge stick! LOL. Oi, doesn't sound like he's gonna make this easy on anyone, the little bugger. Don't give in! Make him work for it, maybe he'll get tired after a few days.
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Post by pegleg on Oct 10, 2017 18:43:05 GMT -5
LOL That's what I said but I didn't use fudge stick haha.
And I'll try grab and dab with Binx xDD
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Post by pegleg on Oct 10, 2017 18:45:24 GMT -5
LindaM I have been trying to get this cat to eat wet food for a good 10 years with various cans and methods. He's resilient.
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Post by LindaM on Oct 10, 2017 19:01:06 GMT -5
If he's resilient.. well we are stronger! We're gonna give it every shot that we can under the sun before we will give up.
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Post by pegleg on Oct 10, 2017 19:16:36 GMT -5
Haha sounds good! I can definitely use tips because at this point he's got me stumped
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Post by pegleg on Oct 11, 2017 19:10:12 GMT -5
Ferrets eating their heart and bone in food happily. Cat still carrying kibble to another room.
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Post by LindaM on Oct 12, 2017 23:48:09 GMT -5
How did things go today? Fuzzies still doing good with their meals? Cat still being a wee crap about his?
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Post by pegleg on Oct 13, 2017 1:06:26 GMT -5
Yeeep. The ferrets happily ate their chicken wings and the cat carried all his food out of the dining room and into the hallway I'm starting to wonder if the cat associates wet food with bad memories. When he was about a year old he ended up in a fight with an akita... And lost. Broke his jaw. We got him fixed up of course and he was on wet food... pretty much soupies for awhile. It's been since then that he won't touch wet food.
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Post by pegleg on Oct 14, 2017 17:19:18 GMT -5
1. Ferret's name: Thackery (9 Weeks) 2. Ferret's weight: 746 grams 3. Ferret's Daily Medications: N/A 4. Ferret has eaten "X" amount on average per meal: Didn't weigh it, but he eats unlimited 5. Stools on various proteins: Still soft, but no longer seedy. Except after whole prey meal, then it was furry 6. Activity levels: Extremely active, very vocal when playing. 7. Weekly menu: Sunday AM: Ground Rabbit Sunday PM: Ground Beaver Monday AM: Ground Chicken Monday PM: Instinct Primal Raw Chicken Tuesday AM: Whole prey mice. Tuesday PM: Bone in Chicken Wing + Freeze dried liver. Wednesday AM: Ground Rabbit Wednesday PM: Game Hen Ribcage Thursday PM: Ground rabbit + instinct primal raw Thursday PM: Game hen wings Friday AM: Venison Chunks Friday PM: Chicken Ribs Saturday AM: Venison Chunks Saturday PM: Whole prey silverside fish and mice
1. Ferret's name: Binx (12 Weeks) 2. Ferret's weight: 942 grams 3. Ferret's Daily Medications: N/A 4. Ferret has eaten "X" amount on average per meal: Didn't weigh it, but he eats unlimited 5. Stools on various proteins: No longer seedy, firming up 6. Activity levels: Extremely active. When out, war dances around the house and gets into EVERYTHING. 7. Weekly menu: Sunday AM: Ground Rabbit Sunday PM: Ground Beaver Monday AM: Ground Chicken Monday PM: Instinct Primal Raw Chicken Tuesday AM: Ground rabbit Tuesday PM: Bone in Chicken Wing + Freeze dried liver. Wednesday AM: Ground Rabbit Wednesday PM: Game Hen Ribcage Thursday PM: Ground rabbit + instinct primal raw Thursday PM: Game hen wings Friday AM: Venison Chunks Friday PM: Chicken Ribs Saturday AM: Venison Chunks Saturday PM: Whole prey silverside fish and mice (if he eats it will change this if he doesn't)
I counted the freeze dried liver as the offal because they had a couple pieces each and I didn't realize how concentrated freeze dried was a the time haha. They're dog treat bison liver bits. They each had two 'nuggets.'
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Post by LindaM on Oct 16, 2017 18:56:30 GMT -5
Hey hon, sorry for the quiet the past few days, ended up spending some time with the hubby this weekend for the first time in almost two months so it was kinda radio silence, lol. Sorry about that.
It sounds like the boys are doing really good, both on their eating and activity levels. I would like to point out that the menu you posted is NOT balanced, and is different than we had discussed, so it isn't balanced there. I really don't mind you changing around which meals is offered on which days, as long as it still has the correct amount of meals per type needed in the end. Where is your single hearts only meal? Where is the single organs only meal? You have 2 muscle meals in there, you need to have only one of those.
Personally, I do not like to offer liver treats, offer any other kind of FDR treat but the liver ones. It's way too easy to overdo it with the liver treats and contribute to a Vitamin A toxicity, plus it will throw off the balance of your menu. Rather stick to offering the liver in the organ meal, and skip on the treats, just to be safe.
Not angry, and not trying to rant, but just trying to help get the boys on a balanced menu. The heart meal is honestly vitally important for them to have healthy eyes, brain and heart. Because a ferret cannot create their own taurine in their body, unlike dogs, they need to get this from their diet.
Is kitty still persisting with dragging his food into a different area?
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Post by pegleg on Oct 16, 2017 19:50:13 GMT -5
Yeah I know, sorry. I was going to offer a liver day, but I didn't realize how potent the liver treats were until after the boys had eaten them, which was why I was wary of offering them another one this week but next week I'll be holding closer to the list you gave me. I was worried heart or extra liver after the FDR treats would mess up their guts. The treats are for my dog who is a nightmare about liver. This week I'm following the one you gave me word for word more or less
And he is. He doesn't seem to mind at all that he's got to carry it every day *eyeroll*
edit: OH. ONE OF THOSE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE VENISON HEART CHUNKS I was wondering what you meant for a moment then I scrolled up
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Post by LindaM on Oct 16, 2017 20:03:19 GMT -5
Hearts are in their own category, so do not worry about that. Taurine is also water-soluble.. meaning they pee out the excess that their body doesn't absorb in the digestion time, so it's not as big a concern as the liver which is high in Vitamin A, which is fat-soluble, and thus can accumulate in the body if too much is given. Too much heart can lead to extra soupy poops though. But keep in mind, both hearts and organs often lead to runny, tar-like poops. This is absolutely normal, it's why we suggest to follow each of these meals up with a bone-in meal so that it can help firm up their poops again. Oi.. I feel for you on the kitty front. I've made some progress with my stinker over the weekend, he will eat salmon oil on food less begrudgingly now, as well as apparently gobble up cooked chicken which he has never done before, but stole a sliver(or four) from his dad last night who was shredding chicken breasts for me to make pies. I think we should try the fries again.. perhaps this time offer a fry as is, and if he eats it, dish one teaspoon of canned cat food and sprinkle bits of a whole fry on it (mix half of it in with the amount of food if you can). If he still ignores it it, let's add another fry to it and see if he'll take to it if it's basically fry with a sprinkling of canned cat food, LOL. Sometimes the bribe has to be significant in the beginning and then reduced as you go along. I'm just curious to see what exactly his level of acceptable bribe might be right now. EDIT: On the Venison Heart Chunks, okay, wonderful!
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Post by pegleg on Oct 16, 2017 20:40:59 GMT -5
*nods* got it~ And yeah I must have missed that. I just wrote Thack's then copy pasted with minor edits for Binx. But one of the venison days was a deer heart. And I can try it~ I'll get mcdonalds tomorrow and use one of my fries. Hoping he doesn't just carry the fry off like: HAH FORGET YOU
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Post by LindaM on Oct 16, 2017 22:45:04 GMT -5
That's fine dear, it was an honest mistake. I just got worried that the diet may still be unbalanced and if so, we'd want to get it corrected as soon as possible. But deer hearts definitely count as a heart meal, haha. Lucky you for getting a hold of those, wish I could get some for our furballs.
He better not carry off the fry.. wee bugger. He definitely seems like he wants to give us a run for our money. But what you posted before about the broken jaw, it could indeed have some bad memories attached, it just means we will need to try harder to get past it.
Odd question, and I'm not sure if I've asked before anymore. Has he ever shown any interest in milk? While cats aren't supposed to get milk since they are lactose intolerant (just like ferrets), Hades will try to steal it from your glass if you even just look distracted elsewhere long enough. So, I ended up using a very small amount of that for a few days with some salmon oil mixed in to get him to taste the salmon oil. And it seems to have done a decent job as he will now at least eat food that has salmon oil on, where before if there was salmon oil on he'd avoid the food entirely, even favorite foods.
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