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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2016 13:37:59 GMT -5
I cut everything up into small pieces. I did add water and also used the pulse option. Hm...maybe I'll just see if I can get a cheap food processor. I'll check into that today.
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Post by dorena261-Natalia on Feb 14, 2016 15:48:33 GMT -5
i used to make it with hand blender sometimes, when i wanted to make a soupie. but you can try to offer them a soup like it is right now. maybe they will surprise you and eat
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2016 22:52:37 GMT -5
Offered soupie to everyone last night. No one ate it on their own. I spent some time offering it to bandit and maverick (they're the ones more likely to try new things) also got a taste in everyone else. They al acted as if I was feeding them poison! I attempted to use the soupie from the other day. It did have some ice on it, maybe it tasted freezer burnt? Not sure...I'm going to make up another batch tomorrow and try again.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2016 22:59:37 GMT -5
Also, will post report card tomorrow. Someone chewed my laptop charger...going to have to retake pics on my phone tomorrow.
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Post by dorena261-Natalia on Feb 16, 2016 4:32:17 GMT -5
defrost soupie from the ice cube and make it lukewarm. take them in your lap while they are playing, one by one, dip your finger into the soup and put it on their gums, then put them down on the floor. we have to learn them it is a food, not a poison, they have to get used to it's taste first don't worry, they will accept the soup eventually, you just have to be persistent
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2016 7:30:13 GMT -5
Dorena is right. You will have to work with them. Sit with them while they eat and coax them. Make this fun for them. They simply don't recognize this new food as food. Even though yours are youngish, they may have imprinted on their kibble already. You won't get them to eat a new food if you simply put a bowl down and walk away. I'm not saying you are doing this but you're being with them is very important.
You won't have to sit with them forever but you will have to help them along during each new step of the process.
It may take a few days of trying but the key to success will be you being there with them. Dab some on their mouth and they will lick it off. Put someone on your lap and offer some from a spoon and then try with the next one.
Once they are taking it from the spoon then lower the spoon to the plate and let them lick the soup off of the spoon. If they wiggle to get down then put one hand gently over them to let them know to stay there.
Try a few minutes of play first and get everyone all excited and then lead them over to the plate and sit with them and try some soupie with each one on your lap.
It's very normal for them to resist at first. You'll do fine and so will they. Just be patient with them and make meals fun and pleasant. :wave3:
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2016 18:36:09 GMT -5
Hey guys. Just wanted to give an update. I did sit with everyone and coaxed and worked with them. Everyone except Hoss took a tentative lick and were like, nope.
Last night everyone was coughing, they all seem to have developed whatever Maverick has, our vet says it's a virus and most likely the flu. So...I've got six sick ferrets. It's awful to have a room full of coughing ferrets. I'm not sure where they would have picked up the flu, I've not had it. Myself and my boyfriend work in health care, I guess either of us could have brought it home :/.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2016 9:16:28 GMT -5
The poor little ones, I'm sorry everyone is sick. Since they don't feel well then they may not have much of an appetite. Keep an eye out and make sure that everyone does eat and drink well. Keep up with the soupie. It sometimes takes a few days or longer to get them use to it. Soupie will be good for them if they're sick and if you find that no one wants to eat then ask your vet for some carnivore care until they get better and make sure they are fed every few hours. You can take them into the bathroom, close the door and run the shower for some steam. Let them sit in there while you snuggle them and see if that helps ease their coughing and probable stuffy noses. You're in the health care business so you know to be careful and wash your hands so you and your OH don't pick up the flu from them. Take a look at this thread: holisticferret60.proboards.com/thread/13303/cold-fluHugs to all of you sick little fuzzies.
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Post by dorena261-Natalia on Feb 18, 2016 17:47:32 GMT -5
i am so sorry to hear they are all sick, hope they'll be better soon it would be good to take them to the vet, if they are having a flu they will probably need antibiotics. if they are all in the same cage, you can make a steam inhalation there too. Put water in a big pot and boil, cover the cage with a larger blanket and put a pot under the blanket. I used to put my cat with a bronchitis in a travel cage and do it, it helped alot. bathroom steam is best, unless you have a huge bathroom like i do (i hope you understood everything i wrote, my english is far from perfect )
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2016 20:54:42 GMT -5
i am so sorry to hear they are all sick, hope they'll be better soon it would be good to take them to the vet, if they are having a flu they will probably need antibiotics. if they are all in the same cage, you can make a steam inhalation there too. Put water in a big pot and boil, cover the cage with a larger blanket and put a pot under the blanket. I used to put my cat with a bronchitis in a travel cage and do it, it helped alot. bathroom steam is best, unless you have a huge bathroom like i do (i hope you understood everything i wrote, my english is far from perfect ) Your English is very good. I love your suggestion and think it would be very helpful. @ferretfiveo how is everyone doing?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2016 9:18:37 GMT -5
I'm checking in to see how all of your patients are doing?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2016 12:36:49 GMT -5
I spoke with the vet, no antibiotics or anything for the flu, just supportive care. We have a standing order for subq fluids if needed and always have a bag of carnivore care in the freezer. I also added a humidifier to the ferrets room that seems to have really helped. Thanks for all you all a advice though!
Everyone seems to be doing a bit better, they were all very punky for the past two days. Still have a bit of coughing and sneezing but everyone is running around and seems to have a normal energy level. I offered soupie over the past few days but no one was receptive to it at all, they just all felt so crummy I didn't push it.
I had a bag of the Stella and chewys frozen raw in the freezer from a while ago, I pulled out a few pieces this morning just to see what kind of response I got. Durango took one lick and walked off. Maverick, cowboy, and hoss sniffed and wanted nothing to do with it. But bandit and paisley went to town on it. They loved it.
With everyone seemingly feeling much better I'm ready to begin pushing things. I've got some soupie thawing as I'm typing this and will be working with them throughout the day. I'll also get my dangling picture uploaded as well. I also found the salmon oil you suggest poncesmom, I tried introducing yesterday and everyone but Hoss seemed to like it.
Thanks for you alls patience as I work my babies through being sick. I believe we're on the mend and I'm ready to get this going.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2016 17:32:56 GMT -5
It's no fun being sick whether you're a hooman or a ferret. I'm glad they are all feeling okay and I understand not pushing it when they just don't feel good. I started off with FDR while I learned about raw feeding. Mine love Stella and Chewy's but not the frozen morsels. They like the tummy ticklin turkey and duck duck goose nibblets. The salmon oil has a strong smell. Try mixing a raw egg and just putting a drop on top or put some on your fingers and let them get use to the smell. Take it slow until they are use to it. Once they begin to like it then they will love it but like introducing any new food then it takes a bit of time and patience plus coaxing. Don't worry about taking your time. We don't expect everyone to just jump onboard and make a change overnight. In the meantime please do some reading and we'll work on some lessons and then get them ready when they feel better. Let's talk about Organs today. Organs will be an important part of their weekly menu. We've talked about them before but I'd like to start getting you use to the idea of how organs will work in their weekly menu once we get past the soupie/sliver stage: Please read this document again. docs.google.com/document/d/1MwRqCyh9CAT5vAdKWAAHarmm8Cm-etgZsdakU2UIyyU/editFirst of all, Heart will be considered a muscle meat and not an organ. Organs will be secreting organs like Liver, kidney, thymus, spleen, pancreas, testicles, major glands and brains. Liver *always a test question* is full of Vitamin A which is Fat Soluable and remains in their system. For that reason, they will receive only five percent of their weekly menu in Liver. The other five percent will be another organ. Mine love brains so we use that more than any other organ and mine love pork so we use pork organs. You will learn what yours like after trial and error. Lungs are not considered a true organ because they do not secrete. However they are very high in Iron and the Vitamin B family. I buy FDR lungs for treats and foraging fun. Just a small lesson since it's the weekend but I want to make sure that you are comfortable with the idea of organs. Any questions so far? :cup:
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2016 8:29:47 GMT -5
I love your lessons, there's so much information out there! And depending on which website you're looking at you may read two completely different things, I guess there's a lot of misinformation out there! I'm glad to finally be getting the right information.
I've been sick, I had some sort of stomach bug. It was all I could do to take care of everyone and let them out for play time. I'm headed to work here in a few (missed yesterday). I will post everyone's report cards and dangling pictures tonight, I've got to be on the computer for pictures, or I'd do it now.
Also, I'll be making a new batch of soupie this evening, my guys (the ones who dont still think I'm trying to feed them poison) seem to be less receptive to it once frozen. How long would it be good for in the refrigerator? I'm thinking I may need to mix up smaller batches. I've tried freezing inside a plastic Baggie and also in a freezer storage container, it's like they know! Picky little guys!
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Post by dorena261-Natalia on Feb 23, 2016 18:02:03 GMT -5
the soup can be in the fridge for 2-3 days, if it gets a darker colour on the top just stir it. once it's not good to use, it will smell odd.
hope you're feeling better.. <3
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