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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2015 16:40:10 GMT -5
Hi folks :-) As you may know, I have two unaltered hob kits of now 6 month. They're getting into their first rut slowly but surely... Big balls, dragging their private parts over everything, getting oily, mounting each other playfully... They're not smelly yet. They're my first hob kits, I'm still learning... What can I expect from now on? I know there is no fixed schedule but sharing your experience would ease my mind a bit. I've read an older thread here and it's scared me some way... Mounting a bit "too much", heavy fights, horrible smell... Wow... I'm thinking of making an appointment for their chemical castration late December. They'll be 7 months old by this time... But the decision isn't made yet. Thanks and bye for now. Jenny  |
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Post by nancyl on Nov 25, 2015 19:21:04 GMT -5
They'll just do more of what they're doing. You may have to separate them if the scuffles turn to full on fights. In all honesty, if you can make it all the way through a rut (or a good way into full rut) before you have them neutered it will ultimately be better for their health.
I've had whole hobs for a good while now and other than having to keep them separate I don't think rut is that bad. I've never minded hob-stink and that seems to be the biggest issue for most people.
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Post by Heather on Nov 25, 2015 21:00:16 GMT -5
I'm inclined to agree with Nancy. I've got 2 boys who live and have lived together all their lives. The B&E twins (hob and v-hob). They love each other, sometimes they practice on each other (they take turns  (shy) ). Sometimes they cause some scruff damage so, sudocreme is lathered on the injured hob. It heals the scratches and tastes terrible. They can play fairly rough in the spring but it's usually only a month or so. They really do care about each other and Enigma gets upset when his brother is called away to do a "job". They do get a bit tough on the nose, but I really don't mind the hob stink. It's the sliming that bothers me. I get claimed regularly  * . I can live with the smell and allowing them to play in the shower does work at getting rid of the stickiness (caused by excess oil production) but the sliming really does get to me after awhile. If anyone stands still long enough they get slimed, my dining room table legs get slimed regularly, tubes and corners. They do like to leave a trail for the girls. They say if you can survive that first rut, it only gets easier. I don't know whether you become immune or if they really do tone down but I've found that the B&E twins and Tico have become quite easy to live with (as long as I don't let them meet...they really do hate each other....but that's Tico's fault). ciao |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2015 0:37:15 GMT -5
Very handsome boys, I will say I am jealous that you get to have them intact for a while instead of having it done so young as was the case with mine.  There are no breeders any where even remotely close to where I live so it was the dreaded pet store or nothing. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2015 1:29:30 GMT -5
Thank you for your replies! Junior is a nasty boy since 2 or 3 days and is pestering Dexter a lot... He mounts on Dex on every occasion and Dexter is kind of pissed now. Don't want him to get hurt... I'm concerned of the smell... I'm living in an apartment for rent and my landlord wouldn't be happy about gas attacks... Or does it only lingering around the ferrets? The implant needs a couple of weeks to be effective. When I'm waiting until late December, the effects kicks in late January or early February. Or does the date of implantation counts? I've read that the implant doesn't effect on the mature? I don't understand the side effects of the implant, to be honest. They won't lose their little Crown Jewels... Why is it important to wait as long as possible? (I'm not questioning this, I just want to understand it :-)) Best wishes, A concerned first time ferrent ;-)  |
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Post by Heather on Nov 26, 2015 3:43:11 GMT -5
We're not talking about poof...this is different, it lingers, this is their scent magnified. They have scent glands that magnify their scent. They produce huge amounts of oils which also carry a strong scent. This gets on everything, your clothes, furniture....yes, they're stinky little sods. Some people find it really offensive. I notice it and I don't mind it.
Their manly bits will disappear, just like they would if they were out of season (which they are once you've implanted them) when you implant them. This will occur probably within a month of implanting though I have no experience with it in this manner....Nancy, I think has used it as a chemical castration.
The reason for leaving them to mature both sexually and physically is that if you alter before their reach their maturity they will never attain their full physical growth. The longer you put it off, the less likely you're going to have to deal with adrenal disease as well. They've just found that altering after maturity makes for a healthier ferret.
I'm not sure that helped explain it at all.
ciao
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2015 5:51:24 GMT -5
Thank you for shedding at least some light :-)
It´s hard to find owner who was or is in the same situation.
Bye :-)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2015 15:18:10 GMT -5
I've kept two boys through first rut and it got really bad (but worth it). It got to the point where one (the more territorial one) caused a horrible wound on the slightly younger one (ripped skin that required vetting) and had to be separated for a while. I'd suggest to pay close attention and when things go bad - separate. However, they reached their adult size and are indeed enourmous (mind - these are not marshall's ferrets, one is breeder, one is fur-farm rescue). I now regret surgically castrating them and wish I would have just gone with the implant. Another of my boys has been castrated around 2 years old or so,he is giant (again breeder ferret, all between 5-7lbs) but imagine the smell and the slime, ugh  as the others said, the longer you wait,the better it is for them. But be prepared for gooey - everything. Oh yeah and them being stinky and annoying |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2015 17:23:00 GMT -5
Personally I'm currently in the process of ferrets proofing a garden shed, not an ideal option for everyone but given that the weather here is the kind they'd be used to and I really want them to get through a season it seems like a better option than others. Unfortunately while I don't mind the smell people I share the house with aren't of the same mind and that's before they've gone in to season!
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