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Post by FireAngel on Jul 23, 2015 14:21:41 GMT -5
TUESDAY AM/PM: 1 CHICK (2 0Z); 2 MICE (1 OZ);1 WHOLE GIZZARD (0.5 OZ); CHICKEN HEART GIZZARD MIX (2.5 OZ); GROUND CHICKEN FRAME (1.5 OZ); GROUND PORK KIDNEY (1.25 OZ); GROUND LIVER(1.25 OZ)---THE GRINDS ARE ALL MIXED TOGETHER AND DIVIDED INTO BREAKFAST AND LUNCH AND TOPPED WITH A LITTLE SALMON OIL. HE GETS ONE MOUSE WITH EACH MEAL AND A CHICK FOR A SNACK. WEDNESDAY: 1 CHICK (2 0Z); 2 MICE (1 OZ); TURKEY LIVER, HEART, GIZZARD MIX (2.5 OZ); GROUND QUAIL FRAME (1.25 OZ); GROUND TURKEY NECK (2 OZ); GROUND BEEF (1.25 OZ) THURSDAY: 2 MICE (1 OZ); GROUND CHICKEN FRAMES (2 OZ); POULTRY BLEND (3 OZ); GROUND DUCK NECK (2 OZ); GROUND CHICKEN BREAST (2 OZ) FRIDAY: 2 MICE (1 OZ); WHOLE CHICKEN GIZZARD (1 OZ); CHICKEN HEART/GIZZARD MIX (2 OZ); GROUND LIVER (1 OZ); GROUND TURKEY (3 OZ); GROUND QUAIL FRAMES (2 OZ) SATURDAY: 2 MICE (1 OZ); POULTRY BLEND (3 OZ); PORK KIDNEY (1.5 OZ); GROUND CHICKEN FRAMES (3 OZ); GROUND TURKEY NECKS (1.5 OZ) I KNOW THIS IS COMPLICATED AND I WILL WORK ON IT SUNDAY AFTER WE RETURN. I WILL BE OUT OF TOUCH UNTIL SUNDAY! THANKS AND I AM GRATEFUL FOR YOU! Ok so I spent quite some time trying to break this down and do the math and then I realized this is only a 5 day menu and my math is all wrong because it's based on a 7 day menu lol! (headwall) I'm going to be honest and tell you it is very difficult to follow because of the way it is posted. It would be much easier to "see" it listed out like, Monday am- pm- and so on and so forth. At a glance though it looks like you did very well and I am looking forward to seeing how you do for a 7 day meal plan for him. He can have as much as a 1/3 of his diet be mice. We like variety and balance but 3 proteins is the minimum recommendation so based on that minimum 1/3 would be the answer. I try to feed one type a day when I feed whole prey because sometimes it takes them all day to eat it. If Teddy eats 7 different proteins then 2 meals a week is fine or if he only ate 3 types then 4 or 5 meals a week is ok. We need to find out exactly what he will eat before a more exact answer. It sounds as though you are bringing him on a great adventure and that you and your Elliot also had an adventure to remember.
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Post by katt on Jul 23, 2015 19:37:00 GMT -5
Agreed. If you could please post things in the format Heather said that would be really helpful. Hope you guys are having fun on your adventure!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2015 0:32:41 GMT -5
Sorry about that! I was running on empty the other night and typed only the five day menu. Teddy has decided to no longer eat mice or baby chicks. I have held out on him to get him to eat a mouse and the only part he will eat is the head. So I tried the baby chick just to see if he would eat that and he bit the head off! Then he wanted to stash it. Only we are in a camping trailer right now and that just doesn't work. LOL! He wants ONLY the grinds which is not my end goal with him. Any suggestions? What I do for a 24 hour period is take all the grinds listed for that day, mix them in a bowl, and then divide them out into four meals. The reason for four meals is if I leave it out and it starts to dry out, he won't touch it. So he gets breakfast, lunch, dinner, and then right before I go to bed (very late) he gets the late night meal. He is picky and spoiled! AND, the poofing is out of control! The smell is unbelievably bad and at least 12 times per day. We invited some people into our trailer to visit but they had to leave it was so bad. He is my first intact and "scented" ferret so I don't know what I am dealing with. He is by far the most active and nippy also. I have bled many times from him just wanting to play. My husband and I give him a lot of attention and are very patient with him. We have just never dealt with this before.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2015 1:10:55 GMT -5
Also, I am wondering if I need to order some taurine and ground eggshell just to make sure he is getting good nutrition until I can get his diet under control. Also, I wonder if I am trying to feed him too much. Isn't 10 oz of food per day a lot? (for a 24 hour period) I want to simplify his diet and can eliminate some of the meat sources I have if need be. I just have to disguise the organs or he won't eat them. And now he won't eat the mice of which I still have more than $100 worth in my freezer, plus the chicks. I don't want to spend $200 more dollars ordering whole prey if it won't eat it. Since Teddy is my only pet, I can afford $100 to $130 per month to feed him. I just need to get him the diet he needs and will eat.....spoiled little stinky ferret. LOL!
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Post by FireAngel on Jul 24, 2015 15:06:02 GMT -5
I'll start with the amount, no 10 ounces isn't a lot for a kit to eat but not all kits eat that much either. If he is eating it all then it's not too much for him. Some days they just aren't as hungry as others either and yes they can get bored with their food. Try not giving him the mice or chicks for a few days and then go back to it and see how he does. I don't think you need to add taurine or eggshell because the grinds you have contain hearts and bones we just have to balance him with that. The poofing is just a fact of life with an intact ferret and so is the rougher play. I do know they poof when scared or excited or just very relaxed. I'm going to ask katt to address these questions for you though so I can learn too!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2015 15:56:04 GMT -5
MONDAY AM: ground turkey neck (bones) - 2 oz. ground chicken frames (bones) - 1 oz. ground chicken heart/gizzard mix (50/50) - 2 oz.
MONDAY PM: ground quail frames (bones) - 2 oz. ground duck neck (bones) - 2 oz. ground pork kidney - 1 oz.
TUESDAY AM: ground turkey neck (bones) - 1 oz. ground chicken frames (bones) - 2 oz. ground chicken heart/gizzard mix(50/50) - 2 oz.
TUESDAY PM: ground turkey breast (no bones) - 2 oz. ground beef (no bones) - 1.5 oz. ground chicken liver - 1.5 oz.
WEDNESDAY AM: ground turkey neck (bones) - 2 oz. ground pork kidney - 1 oz. ground poultry blend (chicken thigh w/bone, chicken breast; turkey organ mix of heart, gizzard, liver (50/25/25) - 2 oz.
WEDNESDAY PM: ground chicken heart/gizzard mix (50/50) - 2 oz. ground chicken frames - 3 oz. THURSDAY AM: ground quail frames (bones) - 2 oz. ground chicken liver - 1 oz. ground quail frames - 2 oz.
THURSDAY PM: ground duck neck (bones) - 2 oz. ground chicken heart/gizzard mix (50/50) - 2 oz. ground turkey neck (bones) - 1 oz.
FRIDAY AM: ground chicken frames (bones) - 2 oz. ground pork kidney- 1.5 oz. ground quail frames (bones) - 1.5 oz.
FRIDAY PM: ground chicken heart/gizzard mix (50/50) - 2 oz. ground duck neck (bones) - 2 oz. ground turkey breast (no bones ) - 1 oz.
SATURDAY AM: ground chicken heart/gizzard mix (50/50) - 2 oz. ground chicken liver - 1 oz. ground quail frames (bones) - 2 oz.
SATURDAY PM: ground turkey organ mix of heart, liver, gizzard (50/25/25) - 1 oz. ground turkey neck (bones) - 3 oz. ground beef (no bones) - 1 oz.
SUNDAY AM: ground chicken heart/gizzard mix (50/50) - 2 oz. ground duck neck (bones) - 3 oz.
SUNDAY PM: ground poultry blend of thigh with bones, breast, heart, gizzard, liver - 1 oz. ground duck neck (bones ) - 2 oz. ground turkey breast (no bones ) - 2 oz.
Weekly breakdown:
Liver = 3.5 oz. Heart = 7 + oz. Other organ = 3.5 oz. Bone in = 37.5 + oz. Please let me know if this works! Thanks a bunch!!!! Will try to work in mice as I can.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2015 15:57:29 GMT -5
He eats only half a mouse now. The top half!
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Post by FireAngel on Jul 24, 2015 18:45:19 GMT -5
:heehee: mine often only eat the top half also, the bottom half is where all the gross poop is and sometimes they just don't want to deal with it. One of the girls here actually guts the mice for her fuzzies. Ok here is what I came up with, I hope I broke it down easily. Please feel free to correct me if I miscalculated something, MONDAY AM: ground turkey neck (bones) - 2 oz. ground chicken frames (bones) - 1 oz. ground chicken heart/gizzard mix (50/50) - 2 oz. 1oz of this meal is heart 3oz bone in
MONDAY PM: ground quail frames (bones) - 2 oz. ground duck neck (bones) - 2 oz. ground pork kidney - 1 oz. 1oz of this meal is “other organ” 4oz bone +previous meal = 7oz
TUESDAY AM: ground turkey neck (bones) - 1 oz. ground chicken frames (bones) - 2 oz. ground chicken heart/gizzard mix(50/50) - 2 oz. 1oz of this meal is heart + previous meal/s = 2oz heart 3oz bone + previous meals = 10oz
TUESDAY PM: ground turkey breast (no bones) - 2 oz. ground beef (no bones) - 1.5 oz. ground chicken liver - 1.5 oz. 1.5oz of this meal is liver
WEDNESDAY AM: ground turkey neck (bones) - 2 oz. ground pork kidney - 1 oz. ground poultry blend (chicken thigh w/bone, chicken breast; turkey organ mix of heart, gizzard, liver (50/25/25) - 2 oz. If the turkey organ mix is half of the 2 oz then 0.5oz is heart + previous meals = 2.5oz 0.25oz liver + previous meals = 1.75oz 1oz “other organ” + previous meal = 2oz 3oz bone + previous meals = 13oz
WEDNESDAY PM: ground chicken heart/gizzard mix (50/50) - 2 oz. ground chicken frames - 3 oz. 1oz heart + previous meals = 3.5oz 3oz bone + previous meals = 16oz
THURSDAY AM: ground quail frames (bones) - 2 oz. ground chicken liver - 1 oz. ground quail frames - 2 oz. 1oz liver + previous meals = 2.75oz 4oz bone + previous meals = 20oz
THURSDAY PM: ground duck neck (bones) - 2 oz. ground chicken heart/gizzard mix (50/50) - 2 oz. ground turkey neck (bones) - 1 oz. 1oz heart +previous meals = 4.5oz 3oz bone + previous meals = 23oz
FRIDAY AM: ground chicken frames (bones) - 2 oz. ground pork kidney- 1.5 oz. ground quail frames (bones) - 1.5 oz. 1.5oz “other organ” + previous meals = 3.5oz 3.5oz bone + previous meals = 26.5oz You have met your “other organ” need at this point
FRIDAY PM: ground chicken heart/gizzard mix (50/50) - 2 oz. ground duck neck (bones) - 2 oz. ground turkey breast (no bones ) - 1 oz. 1oz heart + previous meals = 5.5oz 2oz bones + previous meals = 28.5oz
SATURDAY AM: ground chicken heart/gizzard mix (50/50) - 2 oz. ground chicken liver - 1 oz. ground quail frames (bones) - 2 oz. 1oz heart + previous meals = 6.5oz 1oz liver + previous meals = 3.75oz 2oz bone +previous meals = 30.5oz You are almost at the needed heart amount here and are over the needed liver by 0.25oz
SATURDAY PM: ground turkey organ mix of heart, liver, gizzard (50/25/25) - 1 oz. ground turkey neck (bones) - 3 oz. ground beef (no bones) - 1 oz. 0.5oz heart + previous meals = 7oz 0.25oz liver + previous meals = 4oz 3oz bone + previous meals = 33.5oz You have met your heart need and surpassed your liver need by 1oz at this point. SUNDAY AM: ground chicken heart/gizzard mix (50/50) - 2 oz. ground duck neck (bones) - 3 oz. 1oz heart + previous meals = 8oz 3oz bone + previous meals = 36.5oz You are 1oz over the heart and have met the minimum bone needed at this point, I would replace the heart/gizzard meal with a muscle only meal. (Although this is not a critical thing, a little extra heart doesn't hurt.)
SUNDAY PM: ground poultry blend of thigh with bones, breast, heart, gizzard, liver - 1 oz. Replace this with either a bone in or just a muscle meal to keep from going even further over in heart and liver then you already are. ground duck neck (bones ) - 2 oz. ground turkey breast (no bones ) - 2 oz. 2oz bone + previous meals = 38.5oz You are still with in recommendations for bone need with 1.5oz until max recommendation is met so if you replace that meal I suggested with a bone in your still good! If you replace the 1oz of liver in your Saturday am meal with a muscle meat this will balance out the week. This is your breakdown you came up with Weekly breakdown: Liver = 3.5 oz. Heart = 7 + oz. Other organ = 3.5 oz. Bone in = 37.5 + oz. Our math doesn't match! If there is a grind proportion that I misunderstood or miscalculated, I think I made it easy enough to follow for you to be able to spot where we differed. I promise I won't be upset if you show me I miscalculated.
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Post by katt on Jul 24, 2015 20:50:59 GMT -5
I am wondering if I need to order some taurine and ground eggshell just to make sure he is getting good nutrition until I can get his diet under control.No. If the bone or heart content is too low, we will fix it by changing the menu. There should be no need for supplements, he should be getting everything he needs from his diet. Supplements are never as good as getting the nutrients from the actual source. Also, I wonder if I am trying to feed him too much. Isn't 10 oz of food per day a lot? (for a 24 hour period) Yes, 10oz of food a day is a lot - for an adult farm ferret. You have a privately bred kit! Like Heather said, 10oz is fine for him right now as long as he is eating it of his own free will. It is pretty uncommon for a raw fed ferret to over eat and unless they over-eat they should always be provided with as much food as they want to eat. Especially when they are young and growing - he needs those calories to grow into a strong, healthy adult fert! A good rule of thumb is to always feed enough so that by the next meal, there are 1-2 bites of the previous meal left. That way you know they got their fil and didn't spend the day looking for more, but there is minimal waste. I want to simplify his diet and can eliminate some of the meat sources I have if need be. I just have to disguise the organs or he won't eat them. And now he won't eat the mice of which I still have more than $100 worth in my freezer, plus the chicks. I don't want to spend $200 more dollars ordering whole prey if it won't eat it. Since Teddy is my only pet, I can afford $100 to $130 per month to feed him. I just need to get him the diet he needs and will eat.....spoiled little stinky ferret. LOL
Why do you want to eliminate meat sources? Variety is good - the more variety of proteins the better! As for not wanting to eat certain things, don't worry we will get him there. Just remember that YOU make the rules, not him! Ferrets are lazy, spoiled creatures - if they don't have to work for something they won't (unless of course it is something they aren't supposed to have, then they will not stop at anything to get it hahaha). Why should he do all of that work to chomp on whole mice when he can just lap up nice easy grinds? Haha We just have to work him back up to whole meats and remind him that he doesn't get to be lazy. lol
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Post by katt on Jul 24, 2015 21:30:39 GMT -5
MONDAY AM: ground turkey neck (bones) - 2 oz. ground chicken frames (bones) - 1 oz. ground chicken heart/gizzard mix (50/50) - 2 oz. 3oz bone-in 1oz heart 1oz muscle-only
MONDAY PM: ground quail frames (bones) - 2 oz. ground duck neck (bones) - 2 oz. ground pork kidney - 1 oz. 4oz bones 1oz other organ
TUESDAY AM: ground turkey neck (bones) - 1 oz. ground chicken frames (bones) - 2 oz. ground chicken heart/gizzard mix(50/50) - 2 oz. 3oz bones 1oz heart 1oz muscle-only
TUESDAY PM: ground turkey breast (no bones) - 2 oz. ground beef (no bones) - 1.5 oz. ground chicken liver - 1.5 oz. 1.5oz liver 3.5oz muscle-only
WEDNESDAY AM: ground turkey neck (bones) - 2 oz. ground pork kidney - 1 oz. ground poultry blend (chicken thigh w/bone 1oz, chicken breast 0.5oz; turkey organ mix of heart, gizzard, liver (50/25/25) 0.5oz - 2 oz.
assuming heart/gizzard/liver are in equal amounts that is 0.5oz/3 = 0.167oz each 1oz other-organ 1oz bone 0.17oz heart 0.17oz muscle-only 0.17oz liver
WEDNESDAY PM: ground chicken heart/gizzard mix (50/50) - 2 oz. ground chicken frames - 3 oz. 1oz heart 10z muscle 3oz bone THURSDAY AM: ground quail frames (bones) - 2 oz. ground chicken liver - 1 oz. ground quail frames - 2 oz. 4oz bone 1oz liver
THURSDAY PM: ground duck neck (bones) - 2 oz. ground chicken heart/gizzard mix (50/50) - 2 oz. ground turkey neck (bones) - 1 oz. 3oz bones 1oz heart 1oz muscle
FRIDAY AM: ground chicken frames (bones) - 2 oz. ground pork kidney- 1.5 oz. ground quail frames (bones) - 1.5 oz. 3.5oz bones 1.5oz other-organ
FRIDAY PM: ground chicken heart/gizzard mix (50/50) - 2 oz. ground duck neck (bones) - 2 oz. ground turkey breast (no bones ) - 1 oz. 2oz bones 1oz heart 2oz muscle (gizzards and breast)
SATURDAY AM: ground chicken heart/gizzard mix (50/50) - 2 oz. ground chicken liver - 1 oz. ground quail frames (bones) - 2 oz. 1oz heart 1oz muscle 1oz liver 2oz bone
SATURDAY PM: ground turkey organ mix of heart, liver, gizzard (50/25/25) - 1 oz. ground turkey neck (bones) - 3 oz. ground beef (no bones) - 1 oz. 1oz heart 0.5oz liver 1.5oz muscle (gizzard and beef) 3oz bone
SUNDAY AM: ground chicken heart/gizzard mix (50/50) - 2 oz. ground duck neck (bones) - 3 oz. 1oz heart 1oz muscle 3oz bones
SUNDAY PM: ground poultry blend of thigh with bones, breast, heart, gizzard, liver - 1 oz. ground duck neck (bones ) - 2 oz. ground turkey breast (no bones ) - 2 oz. ground poultry blend: (chicken thigh w/bone 0.5oz, chicken breast 0.25oz; turkey organ mix of heart, gizzard, liver (50/25/25) 0.25oz) [/b] assuming heart/gizzard/liver are in equal amounts that is 0.25oz/3 = 0.083oz each 2.5oz bones (2oz duck neck, 0.5oz from blend) 2.33oz muscle (2oz turkey breast, 0.25oz chicken breast, 0.083oz gizzard) 0.083oz heart 0.083oz liver[/font]
I entered this all into an Excel sheet and created formulas. This gives you: 68.506oz of meat total: 37oz bone-in meat (54% total) 8.253oz heart (12% total) 4.253oz liver (6.2% total) 3,5oz other-organ (5.1% total) = 11.3% organ 15.5oz boneless muscle-meat (22.6% total)
So a little over on the heart - TOTALLY fine, you can't over-do taurine the only thing to watch for with excess heart is if they get so much their stools are loose a little over on the organ - it's not enough over to concern me but you can decrease it by about an ounce (if you want to see the math: you are 1.3% over, 1.3% of 68.6oz is 0.89) Bone-in is less precise but he is getting bone most meals/days so they key is to watch his poops. Dry, hard poops or constipated ferret = he is getting too much bone. Soft stools = he isn't getting enough bone.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2015 13:42:54 GMT -5
Thanks so much to you both. Yes. Ted will be happy to eliminate a little liver. Will keep the extra heart I think. Will add in some ground turkey breast and will keep all the variety. Any ideas about the poofing? Will this decrease at all once he is neutered. We love him so much and are having so much fun with him. Little Stinker!
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Post by FireAngel on Jul 25, 2015 22:53:17 GMT -5
I'm going to suggest you start a thread under either ferret talk or health concerns regarding the poofing. I have searched the forum and there really is precious little on it from what I could find, maybe some of the breeders or others that have intact "fully loaded" ferrets can answer your questions unless katt has some input. Glad you are keeping the variety and the heart! I'm sure Teddy will be grateful for the loss of some liver lol! Hope you guys are having a blast and can't wait to see some new pictures of Teddy. When you get home and get a chance a new weight and pictures of him dangling and sitting on the floor would be great. If you need examples I would be happy to post a couple unless Katt beats me to it lol!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2015 20:49:30 GMT -5
Turkey organ blend = 50% heart, 25% liver, 25% gizzard Poultry Blend = chicken thigh with bone, chicken breast, turkey heart, liver gizzard - person from company guessed that the organ in this blend had 50% heart, 25% liver, and 25% gizzard.
That is why I am not too worried about going over on the organs a little. (if you think that is ok)
I weighed him today and he is at 4.01 pounds.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2015 20:55:34 GMT -5
Pictures coming soon!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2015 21:01:23 GMT -5
MONDAY AM: ground turkey neck (bones) - 2 oz. ground chicken frames (bones) - 1 oz. ground chicken heart/gizzard mix (50/50) - 2 oz. 3oz bone-in 1oz heart 1oz muscle-only
MONDAY PM: ground quail frames (bones) - 2 oz. ground duck neck (bones) - 2 oz. ground pork kidney - 1 oz. 4oz bones 1oz other organ
TUESDAY AM: ground turkey neck (bones) - 1 oz. ground chicken frames (bones) - 2 oz. ground chicken heart/gizzard mix(50/50) - 2 oz. 3oz bones 1oz heart 1oz muscle-only
TUESDAY PM: ground turkey breast (no bones) - 2 oz. ground beef (no bones) - 1.5 oz. ground chicken liver - 1.5 oz. 1.5oz liver 3.5oz muscle-only
WEDNESDAY AM: ground turkey neck (bones) - 2 oz. ground pork kidney - 1 oz. ground poultry blend (chicken thigh w/bone 1oz, chicken breast 0.5oz; turkey organ mix of heart, gizzard, liver (50/25/25) 0.5oz - 2 oz.
assuming heart/gizzard/liver are in equal amounts that is 0.5oz/3 = 0.167oz each 1oz other-organ 1oz bone 0.17oz heart 0.17oz muscle-only 0.17oz liver
WEDNESDAY PM: ground chicken heart/gizzard mix (50/50) - 2 oz. ground chicken frames - 3 oz. 1oz heart 10z muscle 3oz bone THURSDAY AM: ground quail frames (bones) - 2 oz. ground chicken liver - 1 oz. ground quail frames - 2 oz. 4oz bone 1oz liver
THURSDAY PM: ground duck neck (bones) - 2 oz. ground chicken heart/gizzard mix (50/50) - 2 oz. ground turkey neck (bones) - 1 oz. 3oz bones 1oz heart 1oz muscle
FRIDAY AM: ground chicken frames (bones) - 2 oz. ground pork kidney- 1.5 oz. ground quail frames (bones) - 1.5 oz. 3.5oz bones 1.5oz other-organ
FRIDAY PM: ground chicken heart/gizzard mix (50/50) - 2 oz. ground duck neck (bones) - 2 oz. ground turkey breast (no bones ) - 1 oz. 2oz bones 1oz heart 2oz muscle (gizzards and breast)
SATURDAY AM: ground chicken heart/gizzard mix (50/50) - 2 oz. ground chicken liver - 1 oz. ground quail frames (bones) - 2 oz. 1oz heart 1oz muscle 1oz liver 2oz bone
SATURDAY PM: ground turkey organ mix of heart, liver, gizzard (50/25/25) - 1 oz. ground turkey neck (bones) - 3 oz. ground beef (no bones) - 1 oz. 1oz heart 0.5oz liver 1.5oz muscle (gizzard and beef) 3oz bone
SUNDAY AM: ground chicken heart/gizzard mix (50/50) - 2 oz. ground duck neck (bones) - 3 oz. 1oz heart 1oz muscle 3oz bones
SUNDAY PM: ground poultry blend of thigh with bones, breast, heart, gizzard, liver - 1 oz. ground duck neck (bones ) - 2 oz. ground turkey breast (no bones ) - 2 oz. ground poultry blend: (chicken thigh w/bone 0.5oz, chicken breast 0.25oz; turkey organ mix of heart, gizzard, liver (50/25/25) 0.25oz)
[/b] assuming heart/gizzard/liver are in equal amounts that is 0.25oz/3 = 0.083oz each (THESE ARE NOT EQUAL AMOUNTS: HEART = 50%, LIVER 25%, GIZZARD = 25% 2.5oz bones (2oz duck neck, 0.5oz from blend) 2.33oz muscle (2oz turkey breast, 0.25oz chicken breast, 0.083oz gizzard) 0.083oz heart 0.083oz liver[/font] I entered this all into an Excel sheet and created formulas. This gives you: 68.506oz of meat total: 37oz bone-in meat (54% total) 8.253oz heart (12% total) 4.253oz liver (6.2% total) 3,5oz other-organ (5.1% total) = 11.3% organ 15.5oz boneless muscle-meat (22.6% total)
So a little over on the heart - TOTALLY fine, you can't over-do taurine the only thing to watch for with excess heart is if they get so much their stools are loose a little over on the organ - it's not enough over to concern me but you can decrease it by about an ounce (if you want to see the math: you are 1.3% over, 1.3% of 68.6oz is 0.89) Bone-in is less precise but he is getting bone most meals/days so they key is to watch his poops. Dry, hard poops or constipated ferret = he is getting too much bone. Soft stools = he isn't getting enough bone.[/quote]
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