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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 19:26:50 GMT -5
I'v decided to feed my ferret Orijen cat & kitten (5 pound bag) mixed with EVO Herring & Salmon Cat & Kitten Formula (2 pound bag) so its about 2/3 Orijen and 1/3 EVO. I wanted to get a good mix of chicken, turkey and fish in there. Can you tell me if that is a good mixture of food to feed or is it too much fish? Should I feed only the Orijen or should I be mixing it with a different food? He seams to really like it. I plan to switch back and forth each time I buy food from Orijen cat & kitten (chicken kind) to Orijen Regional Red (red meat kind) to give him a good variety of meats. And yes, I know I know, raw and live food is better but I do not eat meat and it's very bothersome to me to feed live raw meat. For now atleast, he will be getting dry kibble. I am at least trying to give the best kind I can give though. I will eventually try to start him on some type of raw but for now, I just cant stomach it. Below are links to the orijen food's and evo food so you can read ingredients, ect. - www.orijen.ca/products/cat-food/dry-cat-food/cat-kitten/- www.evopet.com/products/1431- www.orijen.ca/products/cat-food/dry-cat-food/regional-red/ |
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Post by racheld on Jul 22, 2014 20:52:42 GMT -5
I don't know if the fish would be a problem. I was planning on feeding orijen before I switched to raw, as I remember it's pretty great food. And having three different types of food is a good idea. When you just feed one you run the risk of not being able to find it when you need it and having to introduce a new food.
I don't eat meat either, and it can really suck to cut up and portion food for Remus. If you ever do decide to take the plunge there are a few vegans and vegetarians on here who you can always talk to about it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 20:59:47 GMT -5
Isn't Wysong considered to be one of the best kibbles available for ferrets? On several lists I have read that was ranked number one, but I am fairly new at this. Have you considered that? I was considering using Wysong and Evo to supplement my raw feeding because I'm super paranoid she won't get enough or that I won't do it right.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2014 10:30:28 GMT -5
I read the ingredients and stuff of both the orijen and and wysong ferret and I actually feel like orijen is better but Im not 100% on that. Im just going off the ingredient lists. I'll look more into the wysong though
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2014 20:51:11 GMT -5
Yeah, like I said I am def not an expert, but that was my understanding. If you find out otherwise please post!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2014 22:48:09 GMT -5
I feed orijen only, mixed with Wysong's Ferret Epigen when I can get it. I actually rotate all three flavours of Orijen as well. (Poultry, Fish, Red Meats.)
I haven't had any problems with the 6Fish formula and I've fed that sans Epigen so I know he did fine on it - and it didn't make him any smellier either. (I've heard that fish based foods supposedly make them have a stronger odour.)
Both are good foods, but something about the Wysong company rubs me the wrong way, and I think its important that you trust the company you're buying from, what with all the recalls that certain companies seem to be plagued with - Evo being one of them so I'd avoid it!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2014 6:54:18 GMT -5
Both are good foods, but something about the Wysong company rubs me the wrong way, and I think its important that you trust the company you're buying from, what with all the recalls that certain companies seem to be plagued with - Evo being one of them so I'd avoid it! What was that? Just so I know whether I should make a purchase or not. |
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Post by Sherry on Jul 24, 2014 8:46:35 GMT -5
Wysong's is a good company as a rule. The issue was their latest "improvement". A number of ferrets developed diarrhea so the had to start offering the original version again.
And they did that fairly quickly once the reports all started coming in.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2014 8:49:21 GMT -5
Wysong's is a good company as a rule. The issue was their latest "improvement". A number of ferrets developed diarrhea so the had to start offering the original version again. And they did that fairly quickly once the reports all started coming in. How can I get the original formula? I don't know if I will need it but I would like to have a kibble to offer just in case. |
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Post by Sherry on Jul 24, 2014 8:54:27 GMT -5
Since he IS so young, and you if are planning on switching right away, I would honestly just stick with what he is eating now.
If the switch has to wait a while I believe the food is called "digestive support"
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Post by Sherry on Jul 24, 2014 8:54:47 GMT -5
Sorry- epigen 90 digestive support
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Post by raynebc on Jul 26, 2014 14:24:40 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2014 18:11:33 GMT -5
Both are good foods, but something about the Wysong company rubs me the wrong way, and I think its important that you trust the company you're buying from, what with all the recalls that certain companies seem to be plagued with - Evo being one of them so I'd avoid it! What was that? Just so I know whether I should make a purchase or not. Honestly it's just the way they phrase things on their website... I also really dislike that they use pea/vegetable protein in their regular cat/dog Epigen formulas to boost the protein levels. Plant protein is really difficult for ferrets & cats to digest and its tough on a cat's kidneys. To give some perspective, both the Epigen & Epigen90 formulas have an analysis of 60% protein, despite the fact that the regular formula is only 60%meat product, and the 90 formula is 90% meat product. It just seems like trickery to boost the protein levels with pea protein.... never mind that its really not healthy for cats. Additionally, the Epigen90 formula which is marketed towards cats only has 16%fat content, and on the regular Epigen formula its only 11%. Both those formulas are marketed towards cats, but cats need a minimum of 20% fat for their "quickly convertible energy." This is especially important if you have cats likely mine that are very high energy and need the high fat to keep from crashing which is really unhealthy. So yeah, I'm at odds with them marketing foods for cats that don't meet the requirements they should. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2014 8:40:44 GMT -5
Rachel, I know this is an older thread, but I'd like to say that I used to feed EVO and I would not recommend it. They use peas as a binding agent, which cause bladder stones in ferrets. My Louie passed away from complications during bladder stone surgery. I would go with a mix of Orijen and Wysong until you can feed raw.
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Post by raynebc on Aug 25, 2014 14:11:12 GMT -5
I emailed Evo about it before and they believe it is used in a small enough amount that it wouldn't cause problems. I don't know if that is verifiable, but Evo hasn't been associated with stones at all in the way that it has been with some other ferret foods like Zupreem grain-free. And if used as a mixer, the pea consumption can end up much lower.
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