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Post by Sherry on May 26, 2011 19:15:07 GMT -5
Please let us know what they have to say on the matter!
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Post by miamiferret2 on May 26, 2011 19:56:07 GMT -5
Gandolfi got back to me. I posted it in the other thread "Adrenal prevention questions" 
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2011 23:34:39 GMT -5
I had an ultrasound don on Tonto since he has borderline high blood sugar. Fasting blood sugar brings it down, so there's no big issue. The ultasound showed an exceptionally healthy animal for over 6 years old. Adrenal glands showed no enlargement/tumors of any kind.
Tonto did show adreanl on the Tennessee panel 6 months after his first adrenal implant. he now has his second implant. as with the first implant, all 4 show minor signs (behavioral) of breakthrough on their second implants.
-jnnifer
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2011 7:45:39 GMT -5
I'll comment some more on my on this stuff.... I forgot to mention a health prostate for Tonto as well - not enlarged, etc. (Tired and working too much these days  ) Not all ferrets that have adrenal "disease" have enlarged glands and/or tumors. A gland can be perfectly normal in size, but it can be discolored, incorrect texture, have micro lesions, etc. My kids have shown only subtle behavioral signs of adrenal and some seasonal rat-tail. They do show as adrenal on the Tennessee Panel. They do show some minor adrenal behavior on the deslorelin - I re-implant after 6 months. I talked to Dr. Wagner regarding the "break-through" symptoms and the adrenal panel showing issues n spite of the implants. He commented that the Des. addresses only the LH aspect of adrenal disease - there are probably more factors involved. He also commented that he just implants and generally does not use the adrenal panel. He seemed to think that the amount of adrenal activity I'm seeing was not worth worrying about (my kids are over 6 and they are not very adrenal, so if I keep them implanted they probably won't have any bad issues with adrenal during their lifetime - i.e., something else will get them  ) -jennifer
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2011 8:05:41 GMT -5
I couldn't find the article.  I really don't want my Maxwell do have adrenal, which I know its almost impossible. Do you guys recommend getting the implant just for preventative sake? And if so when should I get it for him? Thanks. 
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2011 16:25:56 GMT -5
I assume you are looking for a specific article associated with this thread??? The thread itself is the report on how my brats are doing on their implants. So far, I'm very happy with the implants.
The Des. implants are being successfully used either preventively or as a treatment for adrenal disease. The recommendation for using Deslorelin preventively is to implant your ferret about a month prior to the time you expect your ferret would reach puberty OR, implant your ferret any time thereafter. I ferrets that has not had any or very, very little activity, it seems that implants can be effective for over a year.
Side effects are not being reported, and ferrets implanted at very young ages are doing extremely well.
My brats are older, so they had already developed some minor adrenal activity by the time the implants could be obtained. That being said, it appears that the disease will not advance to the point of fur loss or any major issues within their likely lifetime.
-jennifer
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2011 16:46:33 GMT -5
Jennifer, would you recommend all ferrets get implants as soon as possible, even before they start showing symptoms? Three of my four are three years old now, and only one is starting to worry me about being possible adrenal (his coat this summer is thin and patchy in certain areas, when usually, it's sleek and shiny  ). My newest will be turning a year old this month, so when would I implant him, and should I?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2011 19:44:19 GMT -5
Yeah miamiferret said there was an article titled "Adrenal prevention Topics". But i basically had the same question ferretdroogies has. My ferret Maxwell is just over a year old, should i have him implanted just in case/for preventative sake? ("  ")
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2011 20:43:21 GMT -5
If I had young altered ferrets, I would definitely use deslorelin t try to prevent adrenal disease.
Ferrets that are a year old have prbalaly already started to over-drive their adrenal glands. It's only a matter of time before the adrenal tissue becomes diseased. Prevention works muh better since it's easier to prevnt damage in the gland than it is to repair/heal it.
If you look in the medical section, there is an article called Adrenal Prevention. You need to look in the medical section. Since the thread is not a new one, it will not show up when you select the "New Posts" button for the forum.
-jennifer
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Post by Sherry on Jul 8, 2011 20:45:24 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2011 20:47:43 GMT -5
Ferret Droogies, I would even implant you baby who will be turninga year old in about a month. ferrets born late in the year usually go into season their first Spring at less than a year old. So, I suspect that your baby's adrenal glands are already producing hormones from the adrenal cortical tissue.
-jennifer
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Post by miamiferret2 on Jul 8, 2011 21:19:32 GMT -5
I had Sonny implanted at 5 months of age. He's the first one I've done that with. So I will continue to implant him every year in Jan & report on that. I want to do a Tenn panel on him every year during same month in the spring to keep track.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2011 6:19:34 GMT -5
Do you know about how much it costs by Dr. Susan? My Mom use to take my hamsters to her awhile ago when she worked in Pompano and we use to live in Broward. I go down and visit a lot so I'd deff be willing to make an appt with her, especially sense she's more experienced.
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Post by miamiferret2 on Jul 9, 2011 12:11:57 GMT -5
Susan keheller is an excellent ferret vet. Not sure how much she charges for des right now. Last time I spoke to her she was out of implants and waiting on a new shipment. My ferret was implanted by Dr. David Stelling. He is also a great ferret vet. I love Stelling. he's in the south Miami/kendall/ homestead area.
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