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Post by Heather on Feb 5, 2011 22:25:36 GMT -5
hmmm digusting It does appear similar to an ECE poopies. Anyone here? Marie could answer this one for us. She's actually seen confirmed cases. At least your little one is pooping. It doesn't appear to be liquid, and it's not tarry and it's partially formed. Good work. The green usually represents that the food is processing too fast therefore not being properly absorbed (that's what the green colour is) ciao
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Post by taratee on Feb 5, 2011 23:20:27 GMT -5
those look more solid than any ece poops ive seen do you have any RR you could give. i feel like it can only help in this situation especially if shes getting poked to get liquids. maybe she was separated from a ferret she was bonded to? that would cause her extra stress but these poops look NEON green it isnt usually this green for extended times, it usually hangs in the yellow stage the longest. ive had a few ferrets with ece
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2011 23:46:14 GMT -5
That stool doesn't look too bad. As long as your getting food and liquids in, she should be okay. Keep us updated
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Post by kristinb on Feb 6, 2011 0:25:00 GMT -5
Sorry I'm a newbie. RR? I made her bleed a bit on her last sub Q she jerked ack. It wasn't much though but I feel terrible. She took her mess pretty good and here's the best of all, she ate some soup voluntarily!!! I syringes the first half and rewarded with a drop of ferretone from another syringe and then suddenly she was sucking on the soup syringe so I fed it all to her without having to force it. Then I put some into a dish and she ate some if that too! Was so glad I didn't have to force it in her, way more stressful for her and me as well. Bedtime for both of us now. I'll update in the morning.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2011 0:27:20 GMT -5
RR = rescue remedy
Sounds like your doing great - Keep up the good work!
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Post by Heather on Feb 6, 2011 1:01:27 GMT -5
It does sound that your doing an excellent job with her care. I'm glad to hear that she's eating a bit more willing for you. ciao
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Post by sherik on Feb 6, 2011 1:05:19 GMT -5
If it is the proliferative colitis it will take a while to go away. Huck had that when he was a little over 6 months. The poops looked just like that. Is Jinx on chloramphenical? It works great for it. But just a warning, if that is what it is. You will still see yucky poops even months from now. Doesn't mean she's still sick. Just takes a while for the intestines to heal themselves fully.
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Post by kristinb on Feb 6, 2011 1:06:06 GMT -5
She just ate some Kibble and drank some water when I put her into her cage to go to bed . So excited. I think my bliss pressure just went down a bit finally lol. And I don't have to buy a duck soup mix now as I have 4 ice cube trays of my own. Which was so worth it since she ate it! Be time for me now, I can't recall the last time I was So exhausted.
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Post by kristinb on Feb 6, 2011 1:10:49 GMT -5
And yes that drug name does sound familiar, white and smells like vanilla? Thanks for letting me know that I'll still being seeing strange poops for awhile. If it is ece, the house and such is infected right? So even a few weeks from now it won't be safe for another ferret? Lady called today to tell me she has 2 kits in. I told her I couldnt come obviously, which Sucks cuz I think jinx would have loved a playmate. But I don't need 2 sick ferrets! And a kit would probably stress her out the way she's feeling even if she wasn't contagious.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2011 3:30:22 GMT -5
If it's ECE, they can be infectious for up to a year. I'm not sure about proliferative colitis. I wouldn't be bringing any ferrets, especially kits, around anytime soon.
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Post by kristinb on Feb 6, 2011 9:28:47 GMT -5
Is there some test that can be done to tell for sure which of the two diseases it is? You'd think there must be... I am happy to report she's doing much better this morning I managed to give her her sub Q fluids this morning by myself, although was still wishing I had this butterfly syringe attachment. But I did it! She also ate a whole warmed ice cube of duck soup off a spoon for me So I didn't have to force her which was a relief, she seems to like the recipe I made. She's due for meds at 11am, and there was a poop in her little box when I got up this morning and it looked much better! It was more formed and less of a green colour. It was much more brown although the picture makes it look a bit green. It didnt look like that to me. And since I was already showing off poop pictures I'll show these as well for comparison. She pooped again before I took her out of her cage and it looked much the same. Formed: And once I dug threw still checking for any foreign bodies just in case.
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Post by maddiesmom on Feb 6, 2011 10:00:57 GMT -5
I've SO glad to hear Jinx is improving! Kudos to you for taking such good care of her, what a good ferret momma. I wish I had some advice for you, but I've never dealt with any of these diseases first hand, I've only read about them on books and online and stuff *knocks on wood* I just wanted to wish you and Jinx good luck, and {{{{+++get well soon vibes+++}}}}
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2011 11:47:45 GMT -5
That is wonderful news! I'm so happy and reliefed (sp? just woke up and jumped on to check howj inx wasdoing haven't had caffinee) that sje's doing better
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2011 13:40:48 GMT -5
Yay! So happy she's improving. Hopefully someone will pop in and answer your questions about testing for the two conditions. I have no experience with them.
You are doing a great job with Jinx. I know it's hard and stressful, but you're handling it great :-)
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Post by Heather on Feb 6, 2011 14:39:00 GMT -5
Ok, did some looking and this is the closest I can see **Infection typically occurs from direct contact of infected animals or human contact with infected animal. Recovered ferrets can shed the virus in stools for 6+ months after initial infection. You can confirm if the virus is shedding by using a fecal PCR test to identify the marker or have an intestinal biopsy done (by Michigan State University). Actual course of disease tends to run 1 - 3 weeks, though signs (low body weight, weakness, poorly formed stools) can last months.** I will say that probably there are no tests that are readily available. Do you have the most recent book of "ferrets for dummies"? It is basically a ferret bible for ferret owners...I still use it and I'm on 3rd book (purchased the updated version) it is awesome . The information that I posted here, isn't from the book. She has a very relaxed idea for this disease. I know that it can be horribly devastating. Most farm ferrets have built up certain immunities (I'm not saying they can't get the disease but they don't seem to get is near as badly as some of the breeder ferrets who don't deal with this at all) Talk to your vet in regards to bringing in another fuzz. The so called idea is that you won't be able to bring in another ferret for about 6 or so months. Years ago, I had a little girl who was treated for ECE. Her symptoms were very similar to what you're dealing with right now. In a couple of months she was symptom free. At that point the rescue I was working with found themselves overloated. I brought in a kit, Nicodemus and Porthos. Neither boy came down with the disease. Nico had just been rescued (I had rescued the little fellow, a failure to thrive at a pet store) but had left him in the care of a fellow rescue when Pandora came down with ECE. We decided that we had no choice but to risk bringing in the 2 boys because of the extraneous circumstances. Nicodemus was still very weak as he had been in the vets hooked up to IV . I would think if there was ever an opportunity to spread ECE to another ferret that was then. Now, Nicodemus was a marshals fuzz so he could have natural immunities against it. I think for the time being, you may need to put the thought of a second fuzz on hold ciao
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