Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2011 10:09:01 GMT -5
That is great! Wow, you and you're little ferts are doing so well. Organs are always difficult, they have a much stronger flavor than the other meats so they can be a little reluctant at first. Are they only getting liver? They will need at least two organ types, if finding another organ is almost impossible you will have to use what organ you have and use to fill in the space of the other organ.
How are they both doing on bones? Are they eating whole bones, crushed up bones etc.? And are they getting pumpkin in their diet?
I menunapped this from my mentor Katt, I don't have any sample menus yet because you're my first So, anyways, here are some sample menus that you can start looking at and begin building one for yourself, the menu is what I will send in to see if you are ready to graduate or if you need to work on it some more.
The menu should roughly have:
75% - 80% muscle meats
10% - 15% edible bone
10% organ
5% roughage
May 18, 2011, 12:11pm, carpetsharks37 wrote:
Jul 29, 2011, 5:31pm, tablefor3ferrets wrote:
Apr 30, 2011, 11:52am, mikeybox wrote:
Mar 19, 2011, 9:36am, Jackie wrote:
Aug 10, 2011, 7:45am, skits wrote:
You're doing well, keep it up!
How are they both doing on bones? Are they eating whole bones, crushed up bones etc.? And are they getting pumpkin in their diet?
I menunapped this from my mentor Katt, I don't have any sample menus yet because you're my first So, anyways, here are some sample menus that you can start looking at and begin building one for yourself, the menu is what I will send in to see if you are ready to graduate or if you need to work on it some more.
The menu should roughly have:
75% - 80% muscle meats
10% - 15% edible bone
10% organ
5% roughage
May 18, 2011, 12:11pm, carpetsharks37 wrote:
SUNDAY:
AM- Cornish Hen: Wings , rib cage and diced meat
PM- elk tendons and commerical Duck patties (pretty sure the Duck patties have bone in them, not sure about organs - yet to pick them up)
MONDAY: AM - Organs (chicken liver, hopefully other types of liver, beef organ patties eventually and pork brain - what other organs do they need? spleen? kidney?) And I realize they are going to have nasty poops ;D Do I give a whole bunch of organs at once or alternate them each week? Is it better to split this into two meals?
PM - Cornish Hen: Legs, back and diced meat (basically the rest of the cornish hen from Sunday)
TUESDAY:
AM - Pork Muscle Meat (depending on what I have on hand this will be one or more of the following: pork tenderloin, pork chops, pork ribs - they don't really eat the bones so it counts as muscle meat, pork belly sliced - it looks like unseasoned bacon, the closest thing I could find to what you described)
PM - Hearts and chicken necks(Chicken hearts for now, but hopefully I can get pork and beef hearts too)
WEDNESDAY:
AM - Goat meat (stewing goat chunks/some bone, commercial ground goat/includes organs)
PM - Chicken wings and chicken backs
THURSDAY:
AM - Turkey Necks and split turkey wings
PM - Hearts and chicken gizzards(hopefully a different kind of heart from what they had earlier in the week)
FRIDAY:
AM - Lamb meat and bones (commercial ground lamb/includes organs, and lamb bones to chew on - don't think they can eat these, just suck the marrow out)
PM - Whole Quail (bone in) cut into smaller chunks
SATURDAY:
AM - Hearts (hopefully different from whatever kind of hearts they got earlier in the week - if I could go pork hearts one meal, chicken hearts one meal and beef hearts one meal I think I'd be set and wouldn't have to supplement with Taurine? Or should I get taurine supplements anyways?)
PM - Commerical rabbit meat (ground carcass with bone- I too think this includes organs but let me know if you find out)
I do want to get Beef in there somewhere too once I can get them eating it. I actually bought veal cutlets and am going to try them with veal first and then work my way up to the beef ;D
Also possibly work frozen thawed mice in eventually, but I think for now that's a decent menu?
AM- Cornish Hen: Wings , rib cage and diced meat
PM- elk tendons and commerical Duck patties (pretty sure the Duck patties have bone in them, not sure about organs - yet to pick them up)
MONDAY: AM - Organs (chicken liver, hopefully other types of liver, beef organ patties eventually and pork brain - what other organs do they need? spleen? kidney?) And I realize they are going to have nasty poops ;D Do I give a whole bunch of organs at once or alternate them each week? Is it better to split this into two meals?
PM - Cornish Hen: Legs, back and diced meat (basically the rest of the cornish hen from Sunday)
TUESDAY:
AM - Pork Muscle Meat (depending on what I have on hand this will be one or more of the following: pork tenderloin, pork chops, pork ribs - they don't really eat the bones so it counts as muscle meat, pork belly sliced - it looks like unseasoned bacon, the closest thing I could find to what you described)
PM - Hearts and chicken necks(Chicken hearts for now, but hopefully I can get pork and beef hearts too)
WEDNESDAY:
AM - Goat meat (stewing goat chunks/some bone, commercial ground goat/includes organs)
PM - Chicken wings and chicken backs
THURSDAY:
AM - Turkey Necks and split turkey wings
PM - Hearts and chicken gizzards(hopefully a different kind of heart from what they had earlier in the week)
FRIDAY:
AM - Lamb meat and bones (commercial ground lamb/includes organs, and lamb bones to chew on - don't think they can eat these, just suck the marrow out)
PM - Whole Quail (bone in) cut into smaller chunks
SATURDAY:
AM - Hearts (hopefully different from whatever kind of hearts they got earlier in the week - if I could go pork hearts one meal, chicken hearts one meal and beef hearts one meal I think I'd be set and wouldn't have to supplement with Taurine? Or should I get taurine supplements anyways?)
PM - Commerical rabbit meat (ground carcass with bone- I too think this includes organs but let me know if you find out)
I do want to get Beef in there somewhere too once I can get them eating it. I actually bought veal cutlets and am going to try them with veal first and then work my way up to the beef ;D
Also possibly work frozen thawed mice in eventually, but I think for now that's a decent menu?
Jul 29, 2011, 5:31pm, tablefor3ferrets wrote:
Okay sounds good, I added more bone to the menu, I was so glad to hear that I could use them more than once For some reason some meats (even the obvious ones) are hard to find here Oh well, let me know what you think, again
Fifth ferret menu.
Monday: turkey breast, turkey necks, heart
Tuesday: gizzards, pork loin chop meat, chicken wings
Wednesday: chicken feet, salmon
Thursday: heart, veal- only meat, chicken drumstick or thigh (bone broken up)
Friday: liver, chicken ribs
Saturday: heart, chicken or turkey neck
Sunday: chicken wings, heart, and beef sirloin
I will also switch out some of these meats for bison, lamb, and other fish (such as whitefish, halibut, and tilapia)
Fifth ferret menu.
Monday: turkey breast, turkey necks, heart
Tuesday: gizzards, pork loin chop meat, chicken wings
Wednesday: chicken feet, salmon
Thursday: heart, veal- only meat, chicken drumstick or thigh (bone broken up)
Friday: liver, chicken ribs
Saturday: heart, chicken or turkey neck
Sunday: chicken wings, heart, and beef sirloin
I will also switch out some of these meats for bison, lamb, and other fish (such as whitefish, halibut, and tilapia)
Apr 30, 2011, 11:52am, mikeybox wrote:
I noticed the local market has duck feet and head, as well as pig face which appears to have meat, fat, skin, and cartilage. My fuzzes already love eating the bones in chicken feet so I bet duck feet would be a no-brainer. I could incorporate those, to get this:
Third draft:
Monday morning - Mousey (whole, jumbo mice)
Monday night - Rabbit legs or ribcage (I forget which I have left)
Tuesday morning - Chicken hearts
Tuesday night - Chicken wings
Wednesday morning - Turkey neck
Wednesday night - Turkey back and ribs
Thursday morning - Duck hearts with chicken feet
Thursday night - Pig heart with chicken feet
Friday morning - Chicken back & breast
Friday night - Pig face
Saturday morning - Beef heart with duck feet
Saturday night - Beef heart with duck feet
Sunday morning - Chicken liver & gizzard
Sunday night - Turkey liver & gizzard
What do you think?
Third draft:
Monday morning - Mousey (whole, jumbo mice)
Monday night - Rabbit legs or ribcage (I forget which I have left)
Tuesday morning - Chicken hearts
Tuesday night - Chicken wings
Wednesday morning - Turkey neck
Wednesday night - Turkey back and ribs
Thursday morning - Duck hearts with chicken feet
Thursday night - Pig heart with chicken feet
Friday morning - Chicken back & breast
Friday night - Pig face
Saturday morning - Beef heart with duck feet
Saturday night - Beef heart with duck feet
Sunday morning - Chicken liver & gizzard
Sunday night - Turkey liver & gizzard
What do you think?
Mar 19, 2011, 9:36am, Jackie wrote:
Today is beef chunks and some left over ground turkey. There is some pork on sale for $1.29 a lb, so I am going to pick some of that up this weekend.
I'm not sure if you saw my "Diet of mostly rodents" thread. I definitely want to do mostly whole prey eventually. The cost right now isn't necessarily feasible, but that is my eventual goal. With my girls pickiness, I don't think large whole prey will be an option for a bit. If I just put a rabbit in front of them they will pick and choose what they want. But with smaller whole prey, that is much harder
What do you think of this diet:
Monday: Mice
Tuesday: Rats
Wednesday: Bone in meal
Thursday: Hamsters
Friday: Gerbils
Saturday: Bone in meal + extra organs
Sunday: Bone out meal
I'm not sure if you saw my "Diet of mostly rodents" thread. I definitely want to do mostly whole prey eventually. The cost right now isn't necessarily feasible, but that is my eventual goal. With my girls pickiness, I don't think large whole prey will be an option for a bit. If I just put a rabbit in front of them they will pick and choose what they want. But with smaller whole prey, that is much harder
What do you think of this diet:
Monday: Mice
Tuesday: Rats
Wednesday: Bone in meal
Thursday: Hamsters
Friday: Gerbils
Saturday: Bone in meal + extra organs
Sunday: Bone out meal
Aug 10, 2011, 7:45am, skits wrote:
Would this be a little better?
MONDAY
-Chicken wings
-Turkey neck
TUESDAY
-Pork chops
-Liver and hearts
WEDNESDAY
-Quail
-Turkey breasts
THURSDAY
-Hearts, gizzards and kidney/liver
-Lamb
FRIDAY
-Veal and liver
-Chicken ribs
SATURDAY
-Rabbit meat
-Chicken wings
SUNDAY
-Chicken legs
-Pork chunks
I'll try getting in some more variety, if I can find goat, buffalo, duck, etc...I'll add some in there! I could also try giving them a rat or a mouse here and there but I'm not too comfortable with seeing a ripped open mouse in my cage just yet. ;D When I get more comfortable with prey, I can get some frozen rabbits at my reptile store, I'm sure they would enjoy that.
MONDAY
-Chicken wings
-Turkey neck
TUESDAY
-Pork chops
-Liver and hearts
WEDNESDAY
-Quail
-Turkey breasts
THURSDAY
-Hearts, gizzards and kidney/liver
-Lamb
FRIDAY
-Veal and liver
-Chicken ribs
SATURDAY
-Rabbit meat
-Chicken wings
SUNDAY
-Chicken legs
-Pork chunks
I'll try getting in some more variety, if I can find goat, buffalo, duck, etc...I'll add some in there! I could also try giving them a rat or a mouse here and there but I'm not too comfortable with seeing a ripped open mouse in my cage just yet. ;D When I get more comfortable with prey, I can get some frozen rabbits at my reptile store, I'm sure they would enjoy that.
You're doing well, keep it up!