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Post by bellastar on Oct 4, 2011 10:54:54 GMT -5
So I woke up this morning to find my female Vivian throwing a huge temper tantrum! she was bittinng the cage bars and yanking on them so I let them out to do my daily routine clean their cage feed them and what not and I went and picked her up to give her a kiss and she bit me. so I put her back in the cage as a time out for bitting me then she started her tantrum again. I waited till she calmed down then I let her out again, but she wont kiss me or look at me its like shes mad at me or something? Please help me idk whats wrong with her?
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Post by Heather on Oct 4, 2011 12:19:02 GMT -5
I'm guessing that this is a new behaviour for your wee one? How long have you had them? It does sound to me as though she's thrown her tantrum and is now mad at you (just like any 2 yr old skin child or teenager...there seems to be similarities between those ages ..our wee ferts are similar) I find out wee little "Lady" ferts are much more unforgiving of what they consider "our" offences...like time outs and scruffings. She probably felt that you didn't take her out in a timely fashion (they get like this : , even if you weren't late. It wasn't on her time and she punished you (by biting) and you of course punished her. She is of course the wronged party and it's all your fault She will get over it ;D ;D Just play with her and treat her like nothings wrong . ciao
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Post by Sherry on Oct 4, 2011 12:45:32 GMT -5
Mine do that as well, ;D so you have a cat carrier for time outs? I find those work even better. And yes- she's mad at you, but she'll get over it
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Post by bellastar on Oct 4, 2011 13:07:11 GMT -5
Yeah shes never done anything like this before, we bought both of them on sale from pets plus as adults so we don't know how old they are but we've had them for about 4 months now. Oh and my male Spaz likes to attack our 3 month old Australian Shepperd puppy but wont attack my miniature poodle do you think he thinks its a bunny or something?
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Post by bellastar on Oct 4, 2011 13:09:59 GMT -5
No I dont have a cat carrier I just put her back in the cage for a time out. I should get one though.
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Post by Heather on Oct 4, 2011 13:50:26 GMT -5
It's much easier if she doesn't think that her cage "home" is the place she goes when she's bad. The cat cage works the best. ciao
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Post by Sherry on Oct 4, 2011 14:42:57 GMT -5
I'd also be careful about Spaz playing with/attacking the pup. It's not that he'd think the pup was a rabbit or anything, but could consider him small enough to hunt. Then again- the pup could just as easily get tired of it, and snap at the ferret. Or even just jump on your fuzz playing. Either could easily have fatal consequences even if you are right there.
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Post by Heather on Oct 4, 2011 20:23:16 GMT -5
I got a message the other day along with photos of a poor wee fuzz that had been "played" with by his best canine friend. They don't know if he's going to make it. His internal injuries are extensive and there may be spinal damage too. Please, please be very careful when allowing your pups to play with your fuzzes (and I'm not meaning just you Bellastar....this is a warning to all of our members) Accidents happen, but when pets of play together the damage that can be done can not only cost you in vet bills but in heartbreak too. You can say that your relationship with your dog, cat, ferret, rat whatever won't change if one kills the other but it will. You don't just loose one pet, you loose two. Saying that you will be fast enough ....doesn't count. When you watch a hunter hunt prey you will understand you can't ever be fast enough. I will now get off my soapbox and quietly go read my emails ciao
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2011 20:39:19 GMT -5
Tubesock did this all night! so i let my ferrets out to play for about two hours( that is when they start to go to bed and stuff) and ALL of my ferrets except for TUBESOCK -the little brat- were fast asleep within 10 minutes of being caged again. well, tubesock decided that she did not WANT to go to bed yet, so she scratched and chewed and scratched at the cage! had to think of something if i wanted ANY sleep at all. so i decided to let her out AGAIN and tried to wear her out by using the blanket in the air method. she played like mad. SURLY she was tired right? NO i put her back in her cage...she did it again scratch chew scratch. GRR tubesock! why can't you let me sleep? so i soaked her in water because they ALWAYS scoot around the house like mad when i give them baths or get them wet. guess what she did? IGNORED THE WATER she ran around the house COMPLETELY soaked in water and didn't even care!! she just wanted to play! i tried scruffing, yelling no, hissing NOTHING WORKED!!! eventually i thought she was tired because she was not running around as much, so i put her in the cage. guess what she did? scratch chew scratch. GRR!!! so i checked the food and water FULL i cleaned the litterboxes, and vaccumed the smell out of the room NOTHING. eventually at about midnight she and i gave up. i have no idea what to do!
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Post by Heather on Oct 4, 2011 21:11:17 GMT -5
You gave Tubesock exactly what she wanted, someone to play with. You put them in their cage, you turn your back and walk away. You let them tantrum, you don't talk to them, you don't even look at them. As difficult as those instructions are to follow, you must. If you cave, if you acknowledge Tubesock when she's throwing a tantrum, she will learn than if she acts out, she will get attention. Even you scruffing her and yelling at her to shut up is attention. Nothing...no she doesn't exist as long as she tantrums ciao
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2011 21:14:00 GMT -5
NO, please let me explain. the scratching went on FOR AN HOUR AND A HALF CONSTANT before i caved! I am not exaggerating! i walked out of the room hoping that she would give up and she did not! so i tried to tire her out. grrrr she is just to much energy! haha!
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Post by Heather on Oct 4, 2011 21:26:25 GMT -5
No really, I do understand . I've seen wee ones keep it up for most of the night....ask some of the others. Especially if you decide to let them have what they want. Katt, I think had problems with Koda, so many others. Another lady had her wee boy, who would rattle and bang the cage all night. No....I do understand. You have to remember....over 30 ferrets have called my house home. At one time I had 18 wee ones all at once. Believe me, I know how active and persistent these little ones can be. My big alpha boy, Attila (he's probably flipping litter boxes at the bridge) would lay on his back bounce the litter box, he would keep it up until their was no litter left...he would keep it up until Lady"B" his lady friend wanted to use the litter box and then they would have it out....full screaming match, thrashing. Sometimes, he would win and the whole litter box process would start over again. Sometimes, she would win then she would use the litter box and he would start all over again...this time the litter box was "loaded". The ferrets live in the room next to my bedroom...yes I'm very aware as to their noise factor and their endurance ciao
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2011 21:35:39 GMT -5
I did forget that there are people that have had ferrets for MANY years longer then i have Sorry about that, i just get so frustrated! here are all the bad things my ferrets do, Stiv will ( every time i clean the cage) Either DUMP it out and play in it, or dig dig dig dig all night long Coda, has a toe fettish Tubesock does the clawing the cage out thing, OH did i mention as of 30 minutes ago, she has a new taste for FULL SUPPLY WIRES? apparently the taste of cord protectors is delicious! Hagrid used to get into the WALL for hours at a time and go into the dryer tube!!!!! ( no idea how he would end up there!!) we have since blocked up the hole we suggested he went through, and he has not been in the wall since. and ROB will dig at the cage sometimes but prefers to CHEW flip flop to shreds do mind he DOES NOT swallow any but we don't let him have them anyway!!!!!! so yes, all of my ferrets do SOMTHIGN that kills my stuff but i do understand!!! sorry i was ignorant!
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Post by Heather on Oct 4, 2011 21:47:51 GMT -5
Hey, it's ok....really. We all get frustrated and yes the wee ones always frustrate us from deciding to eat things they shouldn't, to digging in places they shouldn't, to just frustrating us. Somethings you deal with because it's dangerous to them...chewing wires, eating your flip flops....digging in the cage and making a lot of noise during the night...that's just being ferrets and you will only make matters worse by letting them know you're frustrated No harm done ciao
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Post by Sherry on Oct 4, 2011 22:29:19 GMT -5
Been there, done that ;D If I so much as LOOK at mine when they are tantruming, it ratchets up several notches. Our cages are in the living room, so they are absolutely convinced they can get our attention for hours on end sometimes. I've actually seen both Suki and Vincent cage biting and digging in the litter box, stop and look to see if anyone noticed. Go back at it, stop and look. They'll do this over and over and over. Since the basement has to be open for the cats at times, and it's unsafe for the ferrets(no way to block it so it's safe for one and keep the other out), they have certain out of cage times. Those times are iron clad. Once they go back in- that's it. They don't even get acknowledged when they act out in there. I clean the mess up the next time they come out. And believe me- water mixed in with the litter makes one HECK of a mess ;D
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