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Post by bluemoose on Feb 6, 2011 23:28:43 GMT -5
It just seems that many of the breed standards are becoming dangerous. There are numerous breeds that have developed health problems from being bred to show. Flat faced dogs have been bred to where their faces are too flat and they can no longer breath properly. Some dogs are bred for smaller heads than they were meant to have and their brain literally cannot fit correctly in the smaller skull so they live their lives in horrible pain. Some breeds have eye problems and being bred for a flat face puts them at risk of having an eye pop out. Some breeds have been so badly bred they can rarely preform a natural birth and almost always require a C-section. And of course the atrocious slopped back in the GSD. Just to name a few. What really ticks me off is that these dogs then go on to win shows making them valuable as breeders. So then they are bred repeatedly and pass on their genetic defeats to dozens, or hundreds in the case of some males, of puppies. Again, I have nothing against showing dogs. I understand that most reputable breeders who show take good care of their dogs and place their puppies in good homes. And that not all show breeders breed their dogs knowing they have genetic defeats. I place the majority of the blame on the AKC and the UKC for making such absurd breed standards. Anyway! Done ranting about that Turk looks like a great dog. Does he live with you?
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Post by Sherry on Feb 7, 2011 2:27:06 GMT -5
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Post by darlene on Feb 7, 2011 2:47:41 GMT -5
That was interesting,sure can see the difference between the show and working dogs. Didn't know it was a Staffordshire Terrier that was in the Our Gang / Little Rascals show. I loved that show
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Post by bluemoose on Feb 7, 2011 2:53:58 GMT -5
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Post by darlene on Feb 7, 2011 3:26:51 GMT -5
I remember watching that documentry on the Crufts dog show,I almost cried when I saw the Shephards and how they could hardly walk. Then one of the judges saying That the working Shephard was not up to their standard. Alot of the new looks of the dog breeds are getting freakish looking and so unhealthy.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2011 10:47:05 GMT -5
Darlene - he lives with my bf's sister, but we all live very close and see each other often.
He is very protective over her kids, it the sweetest thing.
Wow, that GS pic is horrible.
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Post by Sherry on Feb 7, 2011 11:52:23 GMT -5
Pitties and staffs are know for how protective they are over their "kids" It's fantastic! Do you know they used to be referred to as the "nanny" dog? Just because of that instinctive behaviour
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2011 12:31:15 GMT -5
I love love love the breed. Absolutely the most gorgeous dogs with the most expressive faces. Their down-fall is their total loyalty (and eagerness to please) that they give to anyone - even the scum of the earth (dog fighters)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2011 7:18:13 GMT -5
He's such a handsome man!!! Turk has the same coloring as my sisters "Bayleigh"
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Post by katt on Feb 22, 2011 15:20:02 GMT -5
Aww what a cute baby killer! *giggle* haha I love the name too reminds me of scrubs.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2011 23:12:27 GMT -5
Awwww, gorgeous dog. I love pibbies. They are awesome family doggies.
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Post by callie on Mar 6, 2011 2:40:43 GMT -5
Here's a topic I can chime in on readily The term "staffie" usually applies to the Staffordshire Bull Terrier (SBT), which should not be confused with the American Staffordshire Terrier (AST), or the American Pit Bull Terrier (APBT). I too have heard the AST being called the "show" version, while the APBT the "working" line - while it's the easiest way to explain it, it's not entirely accurate. As someone quoted, it's more a question of registries. There are also now the "American Bullies" - they are NOT pit bulls. They're short, and wide, and thick..lol One can generally "guesstimate" the look, as they do vary a little bit, (APBT tends to be skinnier, sleeker, more toned muscles; AST being a bit thicker, wider, solid looking). "Bullies" (not to be confused with American Bulldogs, or "AmBulls") are ...quite the sight.. I just wanted to point out also that, yes, they were referred to as "nanny" dogs, but it wasn't because they were protective of kids. It's because they're great, social, tolerant/patient towards kids, moreso than many other breeds. "True" bred pit bulls ought not be protective of property/owner. They're not a guardian breed (major misconception that they are). German Shepherds, Rottweilers, Dobermans, Mastiffs, etc., are guarding breeds. Pit Bulls were working dogs, bred to be human social, and otherwise (unfortunately) do the bidding thereof...sadly, they were bred to be willing to please at all cost (bull/bear baiting, dog fights) /getting off soap box...lol ETA: That's one cute pup!!! Congrats on the new family member
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Post by callie on Mar 6, 2011 2:52:22 GMT -5
Just wanted to add, the previous AST/APBT pics are NOT accurate pics... Try these: APBT: AST: SBT: American Bullies:
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Post by Sherry on Mar 6, 2011 12:45:23 GMT -5
I gather those are the show dogs?
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Post by callie on Mar 6, 2011 17:04:24 GMT -5
If I recall correctly, all of these dogs have been shown, but not in the same registries. Some shown in AKC, some UKC, others ADBA, and I forget where American Bullies are shown. The first two are what well exercised American Pit Bull Terriers look like. I believe those two do weight pull, I could well be wrong. The main thing about all the dogs pictured, are that they're "pure bred". Unless you have a papered dog, it's very hard to tell what you have... generally people will call it a pit bull, but it may well be a mix. The OP's dog super cute! I've 4 here...
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