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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2011 10:24:57 GMT -5
ok, so my 2 little dogs doing great on raw diet it's little over a month since they started. my 2 big dogs with sensitive stomachs have started their 3rd wk on raw. the first 2 wks were chicken which they were doing pretty good on. they each had one accident in their crates while I was at work. looks like stools started out firm then went to muddy water. I increased their bone. the one seems to be doing fine now. the other one not quite sure. he might just be sensitive to chicken( he's the one with the worst belly issues). so yesterday I started by adding what looks to be a pork shoulder blade (package only says pork bone). they wernt sure what to do with it to start. the big dogs both ate one. (watching for hard poop but not to concerned since they seem to need more bone). they made it overnight with no loose stools. so hear is my question, after I gradually give them more and more pork, and they are good on it, what would be the next best options for raw meat? my concern is more for my 80# pit.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2011 10:33:23 GMT -5
Novel proteins-lamb, venison, bison, sometimes duck would be good choices for sensitive tummies. Some dogs have allergies/sensitivities to chicken, and I have come across a few with sensitivity to duck. Dogs need fiber also try some pumpkin (plain canned pumpkin is convenient) as well.
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Post by Heather on Jul 3, 2011 11:23:58 GMT -5
I found my sensitive tummied dog, required more bone and I had to watch beef. He could have it but not on a day to day basis. Someone suggested as he was violently allergic to grains that he was probably better on range fed beef (which he was). I found that I could feed beef once a week. I also found that fish sat well, but again you don't want to feed more than one meal a week. He loved chicken and it sat well so he would get one meal of chicken, then his new meat...beef, then we would have another meal of chicken then pork (this always sat well). Chicken, then lamb...it sat well but he wasn't fond of it. So you get the jist. I also kept a log. As your starting out, I would try another meat that you're going to have as a regular meat. You can try the sensitive tummy approach but I found some of those meats hard to come by and were expensive. I did feed them, but he didn't get them regularly. Veggies are also a good additive, and yes, pumpkin is a good start there (just don't be surprised by the orange poos  ) I often dump a bag of mixed greens (salad) in the freezer and break it up into their dinner that night. Just some ideas. Good luck, keep us posted ciao |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2011 11:28:51 GMT -5
Oh yes the grass fed beef and bison are usually the easiest to find. Green beans are very palatable and good fiber also  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2011 15:30:24 GMT -5
so heather, Tuesday I go food shopping. should I Not pick him up chicken and just try him on pork? also, with his tummy issues, would feeding him bone Dailey be to much? pork bone actually takes him a while to eat. after all, he IS a pit bull  |
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Post by Heather on Jul 3, 2011 18:16:57 GMT -5
He's ok on chicken? If he is, then you can continue to feed that protein. Now you know if things all go wrong that chances are it's whatever the new protein is. If it goes alright then keep going for about 2 weeks and then add your next protein. Two weeks gives a good amount of time to allow for any upset or sensitivity to become visible. If you move too fast, you won't know where your mistake is and which protein is causing the issue. It used to be you would work it for a month, but most people weren't willing to feed one full month of just one protein. The whole bone thing is a trial and error thing. If you're getting white poops, what is commonly referred to as bone poos, or if the dog is straining or appears constipated then more meat is needed and less bone. This is very much trial and error. Daily bone for dogs is often too much. My wolfhound, eats bone every 3 or so days, meanwhile my pyr (the one with a sensitive tummy) would get bone in meats daily or every other day. My poor wolfhound would explode if he got that much bone  . Now, don't increase/decrease bone at the same time you try a new protein. If you do you won't know if it's the protein or the bone amount that is causing the issue. Some meats don't really have an edible bone, with that protein, then you will substitute the bone from a protein that he can already tolerate. Does that make sense? ciao |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2011 20:14:24 GMT -5
makes since. not sure about the chicken? stools are not forming correctly.
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Post by Heather on Jul 3, 2011 21:30:19 GMT -5
You can try adding some pumpkin, like you would the ferrets. See if that helps the stools. Switching sometimes creates stool issues, and adding pumpkin might help. You might try upping the bone too. If things are still sloppy then perhaps your wee one is sensitive to chicken. It happens. If that is the case then try a different protein source dropping the chicken all together. Pork has good bone that can be easily consumed. Remove chicken altogether and try pork. I will admit, my boy will not eat chicken at all (he never even gave the choice of chicken, he won't touch poultry, maybe he knows something that we don't  ) and so I use pork ribs and spines for bone (it does make him....hmmm....stinky   ) but it keeps his stools good and he has a good absorption of the protein ciao |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2011 21:57:47 GMT -5
if I do pumpkin, how much for 80# dog? also, any pork bones to stay away from with his strong jaw power?
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Post by Heather on Jul 4, 2011 0:53:40 GMT -5
Ok, an 80 lbs dog would eat approx 24 oz or 1.5 lbs of meat and bone right?....so you should feed about 10% veggie matter so about 2 oz of pumpkin or 1/4 c. give or take a bit (I haven't measured anything for years ) ciao |
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) I often dump a bag of mixed greens (salad) in the freezer and break it up into their dinner that night.
) and so I use pork ribs and spines for bone (it does make him....hmmm....stinky 