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Post by tails1950 on Oct 26, 2021 14:24:34 GMT -5
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Post by tails1950 on Oct 26, 2021 14:25:57 GMT -5
think i got it . and its the best pic i got so far
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Post by unclejoe on Oct 26, 2021 15:58:25 GMT -5
From your post I would agree that she' she's not deaf. Idk if you are familiar with Waardenberg's Syndrome in ferrets. Certain color patterns, called a blaze on the head, are indicative, but Freda doesn't have that marking. As for Rosa, I never really broke her completely of the lick lick chomp, but I got to recognize it in time and it became more infrequent over time as well. She never did that to my ex. I got her from a shelter in south FL and she bit me good the first time I held her. She became my project ferret. I got my first ferret Bella from a pets store. I reached into her pen and she ran up my arm and bit MY ear, lol.
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Post by tails1950 on Oct 26, 2021 17:09:33 GMT -5
i have heard of that syndrome but there are also defects and other issues that can happen but glad you can confirm on the markings as i do get confused on all the info. good to hear you made some progress with rosa i wonder if it was you stopping it before it started or her learning/ forgetting about it. lol im noticing a pattern seems you choose the ferret that bites you is it love at first bite
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Post by Charlie on Oct 26, 2021 21:50:01 GMT -5
What a cute ferret!! Yes, taking clear pictures is quite challenging. They don't stay still long enough. lol
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Post by eclipso on Oct 27, 2021 7:07:51 GMT -5
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Post by tails1950 on Oct 27, 2021 12:00:16 GMT -5
thank you charlie tho they all are in there own way. and i suppose that is what makes the rare photos of them still even more special. thanks eclipso ill se if i can get it in the uk it does look like it would be alright
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Post by tails1950 on Dec 1, 2021 13:51:58 GMT -5
hello again i thought ill give a update on the situation. she is now doing alot better i got hold of a bowl like eclipso stated. but the real improvement came from starting to feed raw im only on day 5 but her problem seems to of cleared up in the poop area. only now she is avoiding the litter box and finding a new place per time. the biting has also improved abit but still not there yet or maybe she is excited for xmas. thanks for reading and thank you all again for the help i hope i can return the favor one day
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Post by tails1950 on Dec 1, 2021 14:20:39 GMT -5
also i thought i will add it here so i dont clog up the site with possibly pointless or already talked about things. i was talking to a vet the other day and they think that adrenal could be triggered by housing ferrets indoors so they have summer type lighting year round. i can se the theory but seems a little flaky to me i wonder what others think as it could be used to change all types of things if thats the case
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Post by unclejoe on Dec 1, 2021 21:56:19 GMT -5
First, I'm glad you are making good progress. It's so gratifying to have any pet, esp a ferret, bond with you. Ferrets are tough to build that bond because they are so independent and curious. More time = better bond, esp play time. but they are all individuals. I am glad that you found this forum. I have to say that just a few years ago it was much more active, but we still have members with a lot of ferret smarts. I've had 30 ferrets, up to 9 at once, most of them housed in a FN cage, up to 9 at once, in a room with indoor lighting, but with bedding, hammocks, sleep sacks and access to dark sleeping places outside the cage during the day. Those places were drawers, under cabinets and dressers where I provided bedding in the form of t shirts and blankets so they could curl up in darkness. I've only had to treat 5 ferrets for adrenal. That said, I've treated several for insulinoma, and for lymphoma. The treatment for those is the same, prednisolone. All have had the same basic diet. I had one case of aggressive lymphoma, Jaffa. In most cases, when lymphoma was presented, adrenal was not far behind. I've had 3 that only had insulinoma only that lived for nearly 3 years on pred. Jaffa was a breeder ferret. He was "fixed " at 9 months, and he was left his anal glands. He developed Adrenal at age 5 1/2, and quickly after lymphoma. He was aggressively treated with high doses of pred, but didn't make 6 years old. I know several ferrants that had breeder ferrets that didn't make 5. I have known ferrants that feed only raw to breeder ferrets that have had the same average longevity, 6-8 years. Potty outside the cage depends totally on the individual. In my experience, any number of litter boxes outside the cage are largely ignored, so I put puppy pads in all favored corners. It is my belief that a ferret needs to see his surroundings when going, because it is a vulnerable time. Even boxes with a cut down side like in the cage didn't work, but the puppy pads are ok. I have been on 2 dozen forums, moderated 5 and adminned 2. All I can say is do your best, don't bankrupt yourself (Scamp's blockage surgery and tx cost $1600 and he died). and don't feel guilty. Little buggers never live long enough. FWIW, the European polecat, from whence our lovely little fuzzies descend, have a life expectancy of 2-3 years IN THE WILD. And that's some tough living. Spoil them, love them.
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Post by tails1950 on Dec 2, 2021 9:23:50 GMT -5
thank you unclejoe for the reply. sorry to hear about what you been through with your 30 ferrets that is alot to deal with. it does seem and what i am taking from this is that its almost down to luck or going to happen and only feeding a good diet might edge your bets abit. your dark areas sound more interesting than mine. i suppose my mind ran on the side were if ferrets in the uk so say can do better than the usa ferrets were in the uk they tend to live outside etc and marshals use light to trick ferrets into breeding alot. where ferrets are outside all day they se morning and night at longer periods in summer and shorter in winter and is out of there control and we cant flick a light on could it relax the hormone cells etc preventing onset of adrenal or be able to use as a way of stopping jills getting into season i know its abit far fetched and wrong but to me makes food for thought .on the potty front as its in a court im not to fussed it was more interesting were they was 96 % perfect till feed raw now 3% perfect i mite have a play about somewhen just to make life easier and ill put your ideas in to practice. very wise words i agree and we all got to go somewhen
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Post by unclejoe on Dec 2, 2021 16:08:33 GMT -5
UK ferrets are not from mills and in may cases are kept outdoors where experience a matural light cycle. Adrenal is not a big issue in UK, as far as I know. I do believe that diet can lead to inslinoma. 2 of the ferrets I had with insu were almost exactly 2 years old when I got them from an older couple. The had been fed purina cat chow their whole lives, because "that's they will eat." I had them switched to soups in 2 days. 2 weeks later, I noticed Iceman staring into space. I then noticed that he had lost weight in that short time. At the vet his blood glucose was in the 40s. Sumo's was in the mid 60s. Iceman lived another year, and by that time Sumo had adrenal and lymphoma. I lost him at 3 1/2. I don't know of a cause for lymphoma, other than overbreeding and inbreeding by the mills. It stinks that ferrets don't live longer, and most people that adopt them don't do enough research before they bring them home, which could give them longer healthier lives. They do have longer average lifespans in UK and Europe than here.
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Post by tails1950 on Dec 2, 2021 17:23:15 GMT -5
that is what i have read and heard aswell which made me think if the light cycle help in anyway. tho i also understand the mill ferrets have a hard time before being sold and the gene pool is pretty small which dont help them much. luckily i worked with ferrets and a old boy who has kept ferrets since the 50s way before getting mine so i had some idea but it seems the uk vets take usa ferret study's and alot of the old knowledge has been thrown out. the vet and i was only having a off the record chat as he wanted to find the missing info that he could pass on to other ferret owner's to improve there welfare as we all know people se ferrets in pet shops and all the sugary treats and get the idea they are rodents. that defiantly sounds like diet related to me and there does seem to be alot of talk in the us and uk about diet and inslinoma, thank you for sharing that story. i agree even the europe life span is to short.
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Post by eclipso on Dec 2, 2021 19:09:55 GMT -5
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Post by pablos27 on Dec 4, 2021 12:19:58 GMT -5
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