arialxxyah
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Post by arialxxyah on Jul 30, 2020 21:03:38 GMT -5
Hey guys!
I am planning to implant my female ferret due to advice from people on this forum! There are a few things I am slightly confused about which I hope that I could get some guidance on.
1) My ferret is neutered and is now 1 year and 3 months old, I'm planning to get her implanted in a week, would it be better to wait until October/November to follow natural breeding cycle or would that not matter since she is neutered?
2) Are the effects of the implant going to lessen in preventative since she is over a year old? (I couldn't get the implant sooner since I live in Canada and it took over 4 months for my vet to get it).
3) I am planning to get my boy implanted also in November, he will be a year old by that time (he is also spayed)
I am aware that doing these implants are only PREVENTATIVE and won't completely guarantee that my fuzzies won't get adrenal but are there any differences between neutered ferrets getting them and intact? Are they still effective if they are neutered?
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Post by Charlie on Aug 1, 2020 17:02:03 GMT -5
Yes, after a year old it would be best to implant them to prevent/slow down adrenal disease. I'm getting my ferret his implant soon too. He will be going in for his 2nd implant. My ferret is also neutered.
Get your female implanted in a week. Even though she is spayed it will still slow down adrenal disease. In intact ferrets the DES implant is also used to chemically spay female or neuter male ferrets. My sister's ferret is still intact so the implant works 2 ways for her ferret, as a chemical spay and to help slow down adrenal disease.
No the implant will not lessen the effects since she is over a year. Usually you don't see adrenal disease in young ferrets but starting the implant now will help to slow the disease as it doesn't stop it completely. Most ferrets tend to get the disease.
Getting your male done in November is a good time. You could do them together but spreading them out will help to spread the costs out too.
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Post by unclejoe on Aug 1, 2020 20:45:55 GMT -5
Look up Dr Robert Wagner and Dr Robert Heller. Heller was working on a study in the use of deslorelin acetate 4.7 mg implant to prevent/delay adrenal disease a few years ago. I contacted Dr Heller a few years back but his study was still incomplete at the time. Dr Wagner, who did the most thorough study on suprelorin as a treatment, seemed to recommend 12-18 month intervals prophylactically, and 6-12 months therapeutically. At that time, he had not completed a prevention study, but was in the process of building one. Most experienced ferrents recommend these intervals based on limited available research and personal experience, and I agree. From my personal experience, it seems that it may take a full shed cycle for des to show visible changes in hair growth, but aggression and vulvar swelling decrease more quickly. You can add melatonin implants and/or lupron depots concurrently to treat those clinical signs. We had great results with MOe's coat after just one lupron injection and one melatonin implant in about 30 days. That was before suprelorin was widely available in the US. Now, If I could find a vet that could even GET lupron, I would have to buy a whole vial, which at last check 4 years ago, was $640, because of its short shelf life. MOe was lucky, because his vet had avian patients that also used it.
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arialxxyah
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Post by arialxxyah on Aug 3, 2020 3:19:54 GMT -5
Yes, after a year old it would be best to implant them to prevent/slow down adrenal disease. I'm getting my ferret his implant soon too. He will be going in for his 2nd implant. My ferret is also neutered. Get your female implanted in a week. Even though she is spayed it will still slow down adrenal disease. In intact ferrets the DES implant is also used to chemically spay female or neuter male ferrets. My sister's ferret is still intact so the implant works 2 ways for her ferret, as a chemical spay and to help slow down adrenal disease. No the implant will not lessen the effects since she is over a year. Usually you don't see adrenal disease in young ferrets but starting the implant now will help to slow the disease as it doesn't stop it completely. Most ferrets tend to get the disease. Getting your male done in November is a good time. You could do them together but spreading them out will help to spread the costs out too. My girl doesn't have adrenal currently; but this implant can help prevent the onset of adrenal disease correct? |
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Post by unclejoe on Aug 4, 2020 16:48:59 GMT -5
See my previous post. It may, but there have not been any studies completed, that I know, to prove it, tho there is at least one in progress.
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Post by Charlie on Aug 7, 2020 21:21:31 GMT -5
Yes, after a year old it would be best to implant them to prevent/slow down adrenal disease. I'm getting my ferret his implant soon too. He will be going in for his 2nd implant. My ferret is also neutered. Get your female implanted in a week. Even though she is spayed it will still slow down adrenal disease. In intact ferrets the DES implant is also used to chemically spay female or neuter male ferrets. My sister's ferret is still intact so the implant works 2 ways for her ferret, as a chemical spay and to help slow down adrenal disease. No the implant will not lessen the effects since she is over a year. Usually you don't see adrenal disease in young ferrets but starting the implant now will help to slow the disease as it doesn't stop it completely. Most ferrets tend to get the disease. Getting your male done in November is a good time. You could do them together but spreading them out will help to spread the costs out too. My girl doesn't have adrenal currently; but this implant can help prevent the onset of adrenal disease correct? I'm under the understanding that it could prevent the onset of adrenal disease. It's really hard to say if it will stop it or slow it down. Every ferret is different. Some ferrets never get adrenal disease while others do. It does give them a better chance in life to live longer. Usually with the ferrets that get spayed/neutered very young, they more then often then not get adrenal disease. |
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Post by eclipso on Apr 7, 2021 10:55:44 GMT -5
I read that giving des at October/ November because they are not sexually active at the time. It says that if you give the implant at this time, the 4.7 could last 2 years and the 9.4 could last 4. For adrenal disease, is it better to spay a ferret early or late? I read that after puberty is best.
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Post by Corvidophile on Apr 7, 2021 11:42:07 GMT -5
The later the spay/neuter the better. But if you have an intact female, keep in mind that she either HAS to receive an implant, a hormonal injection, or be bred from. I believe sex itself with a vasectemied male is enough, actually. This has to be repeated every time she comes into season, which is typically yearly. Otherwise she’ll become anemic to the point of death. Males can be left whole without regard, as long as you can stand the attitude and stronger scent.
I’ve read about the implants lasting that long in breeding dogs to keep them out of season, but not in ferrets, and not for treatment of ongoing adrenal disease. Just as a preventative.
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