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Feb 4, 2020 16:25:33 GMT -5
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Post by Leterbuck on Feb 4, 2020 16:25:33 GMT -5
I wsnt to transition to raw diet but here is my problem I could make my own grinds but I’m not a chemistry expert have no idea what % would be. Done extra if I had a weight or a measurement I could make it no problem also. I live in Oregon and there is no way I can afford to order through web sites you listed to order raw grinds my shipping was going to be hundreds so is there any suggestions I would like to feed them what they should be eating
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Post by abbeytheferret6 on Feb 5, 2020 3:55:17 GMT -5
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Post by Sherry on Feb 8, 2020 9:30:25 GMT -5
Why not feed whole raw instead of grinds. Make your life much easier, and the extra stimulation of biting and chewing also helps the ferret.
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Feb 24, 2020 16:15:35 GMT -5
Post by AlienGirl1 on Feb 24, 2020 16:15:35 GMT -5
I will be getting two ferrets in few months and I have been looking into going raw grinds.I was going to do the whole raw, but it just seems to be over my head and stressful. I looked at my pet carnivore and found The Frozen Coarse Ground Whole Chicken. My question is could I feed them the chicken one week and mix it up by giving them turkey the next week and so on? also I have watched some videos and read that there isn't much heart in the grinds or big enough pieces of bone. How much should I add to make it better? also how many 0z do I feed them, I know with raw they will twice a day, just wanted to know the 0z. Thank you
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Feb 25, 2020 8:57:47 GMT -5
Post by abbeytheferret6 on Feb 25, 2020 8:57:47 GMT -5
Can you find Duck and Rabbit too? That would be 4. Do they have the ratio of muscle:heart:organ? Call the company and ask if not. Your ferret should have more than turkey and chicken for grinds ---at least one other protein. Also your ferret can be sensitive to chicken. U need to account for that. One of mine does not do well with chicken. So the more variety the better. I think variety also helps ferrets not develop sensitivities. My abbey developed ulcers in back of throat and she could not eat chicken. My vet said she needed a novel food and said that she may even develop problems with that----so my thinking is--- get as much variety as you can and rotate those proteins daily---like i would not give mine the same thing every day unless I was at the bottom of the barrel. I buy from Perfect Prey and Hare Today like once a month so every once in a while things get skimpy at end of month. Above is the list of grinds from Hare Today. They provide the ratio for bone,organ, and muscle. Some are perfect 80:10:10----a little more bone on some. Others have a little less. Depending on the ferret, one ferret may need more bone while another not as much. Look at stool for dryness. I would also give hearts at least once a week because grinds can lose taurine--- so I have read. Tyson does have hearts and gizzards if you need hearts. You have to examine the package, and if you see a couple hearts mingled with the gizzards---u probably will find more in the pack. But if all u see is gizzards---there may not be any---You can bring it back to your store. I get hearts in bulk(4-5lbs) online from Good Vittles and just found another place which is cheaper--- www.tastyduck.com/shop/specialty-duck/page/2U can order 2lbs, 5lbs, 10lbs, 20lbs. For me, I would start out giving 2 ounces each. They may eat at it a little later in the day if they leave some. Then I would give the same amount at night-----you can adjust from there. If they are babies, they will need to be fed at lunch time too and will consume more than adults. Although I have never fed grinds I am going by what I did with HFF soupies(I made soupies and spooned them in an ice cube tray and set them on kitchen scale and each cube weighed 1 ounce). 1 ounce was not enough for my 2 girls at the time as I did feed them from the same plate and one could have eaten more than other. Somebody that has fed grinds may have a better take on it.
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Post by AlienGirl1 on Feb 25, 2020 22:11:50 GMT -5
Thank you so much for your reply, that was very helpful. I copied and pasted it in word so I can go back and read it again LOL.
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Feb 27, 2020 19:22:23 GMT -5
Post by aliengirl on Feb 27, 2020 19:22:23 GMT -5
How long do you keep them on the soup when they first start out on raw, also how can I tell if one my ferrets develop sensitivities to any of the meat? what should I look out for. I don't have the ferrets yet. I just want to know so I am prepared.
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Feb 29, 2020 2:19:44 GMT -5
Post by abbeytheferret6 on Feb 29, 2020 2:19:44 GMT -5
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Feb 29, 2020 9:12:15 GMT -5
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Post by Corvidophile on Feb 29, 2020 9:12:15 GMT -5
Sometimes the ferrets themselves make the connection between feeling bad and a particular meat, Winnipeg used to eat chicken but gradually stopped. I tried to trick him into eating it again after a month of it being gone by painting it in salmon oil and he had horrible diarrhea (it wasn’t the oil, he had been eating that consistently with no problems)
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Apr 12, 2020 14:42:48 GMT -5
Post by aliengirl on Apr 12, 2020 14:42:48 GMT -5
Can someone tell me what the best raw cat there is to give a ferret. My ferret will not eat the raw soup, been trying for about a week and she's stuck on Marshall's ferret food. I did buy her Wysong Ferret food, to get her off of Marshall's but I still want to try raw. Thanks
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Apr 13, 2020 4:02:35 GMT -5
Post by abbeytheferret6 on Apr 13, 2020 4:02:35 GMT -5
Did you hold her and dab her mouth with your finger? Hold, hold hold---don't let her go until she has gotten some--- you have to repeat this periodically thru the day. Oh yeah, it gets discouraging when you have a really stubborn one. My boy was stubborn. He was one I entertained thoughts of kibble for you and then on top of that, chicken gave him diarrhea---but I got him switched, and on whole prey.
She may not take to that any easier because it is raw. Have u tried googling cat grinds? I used to buy frozen Instinct Raw at Petco ---it was the rabbit one. I used it as one of my varieties not something I gave everyday. One of mine would eat the thawed squares but my boy liked it mashed with a tad of water----or so I let him get away with it like that. If you want to try to start out with that---it is a little expensive.
As far as the forum soupie---I think they said the chicken breast is milder than the thigh---not sure about tho. Never tried it:)
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Apr 14, 2020 17:02:41 GMT -5
Post by Carmen on Apr 14, 2020 17:02:41 GMT -5
I am just trying to figure out this forum so hopefully I am not taking over a thread when I shouldn't. I have 5 ferrets, 3 under 3 and 2 seniors that I took in because the owners didn't want the expenses of senior ferrets. So all but 1 are eating raw. I am looking for information on what to add to their raw diet because from reading posts I know that I need to up my game. Right now they have a mixture of chicken thigh, heart, kidney and turkey that I blend together. I have fed raw mice to one of them but with everything going on that option is much more difficult. So my question is how do I get more bone and muscle into that diet. The 7 year old ferret that I took in was so thin I didn't think she would make it a month but now that I have her on raw and eating like a champ she has tripled her weight. But I want to provide the best noodle slop (household term for their food lol) that I can make. ideas and suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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Apr 14, 2020 19:00:42 GMT -5
Post by raynebc on Apr 14, 2020 19:00:42 GMT -5
There are many menus that people posted in their diet transition threads. You'll want to make sure to take note of mandatory needs including the appropriate amounts of liver, edible bone (chicken thigh bones are too hard for them to eat most of the time), heart, "other" organ (ie. the kidney you're using now) and muscle meat (thigh meat would work). It's recommended to use a minimum of three different proteins (ie. chicken, turkey and preferably a non-bird meat as a third) and try to balance the menu so it's not overwhelmingly one particular protein.
As an example, here's one of the menus my ferrets have had: Monday: Pork + beef (muscle) Chicken wing + quail eggs (bone in + egg)
Tuesday Beef heart + pork kidney (heart + organ) Turkey neck (bone in)
Wednesday Frog leg (bone in) Quail + chicken egg (bone in + egg)
Thursday Pork heart + chicken liver (heart + organ) Turkey neck (bone in)
Friday Pork and beef (muscle) *Quail for an evening snack (bone in) 3 mice+chicken egg (whole prey + egg)
Saturday Chicken liver + pork kidney + beef heart + pork heart (heart + organ) Chicken wing (bone in)
Sunday Lamb + quail eggs (muscle + egg) Frog leg (bone in)
Substitutions have been made over time as some meats became unavailable, but it's mostly the same. Generally any changes I've had to make was to swap one one bone-in meal (ie. turkey neck) with another (ie. quail).
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Apr 15, 2020 0:06:32 GMT -5
Post by AlienGirl1 on Apr 15, 2020 0:06:32 GMT -5
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Apr 15, 2020 6:05:39 GMT -5
Post by abbeytheferret6 on Apr 15, 2020 6:05:39 GMT -5
Yes, that is the ratio (80:10:10) recommended on forum---you know you try to get it as close as possible to that. Because taurine is lost in grind---don't know how much---personally, I would find some hearts to serve as a meal too. It can be duck, turkey or chicken----some feed beef heart. Hubby found this new place for us to order duck hearts and shipping is 15.00. I think he just ordered 5 lbs. A lot of places where I order whole prey, I pay 20 some odd dollars. So that is pretty good and it is delivered by UPS. They are sooooo much better than Fedex in my area. www.tastyduck.com/shop/specialty-duck/page/2I can get chicken hearts sometimes at farmers market, but they go quick there. Because I do not feed grind was wondering---If you will need a couple more grind proteins. What do u think raynebc, Corvidophile ?
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