Please tell me about "bone-in meat"

[bare01]

Hello
.I am studying about raw food.

I can not understand this sentence.
Please tell me the meaning.

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Edible bone-in meat (7-9 meals per week):

Meat with bone included. It is NOT bones with just a bit of meat on them (ie: most of the meat removed) – if you fed bones like this you will throw the balance of the menu off. See below for some acceptable bone-in meats:
(https://holisticferretforum.com/natural-diet/raw-diet-the-meat-of-the-site/basic-frankenprey-menu/)
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I'm thinking of buying his meat at this store.

Is this bone-in meat?
sheep → www.umai.co.jp/nikuya/products/detail/233
ram → www.umai.co.jp/nikuya/products/detail/965

If this is not the case, can you show me a picture of bone-in meat?

Thank you.

[abbeytheferret6]

Bone in meat (meaty bones)for a ferret will be bones with meat on them that a ferret can crush with their teeth.

chicken rib cage
chicken backs
chicken wings(usually not drumette part of wing nor legs)
rabbit rib cage (maybe other parts depending on size of the rabbit)
quail and other birds
squirrel
mice
rat
Cornish hen
guinea pig (Hare Today)
duck neck & turkey neck(may need to pound with hammer)
duck rib cage


Weight bearing bones(legs) of animals such as goat, sheep, ram, chicken are too dense---but you can use these meats  as muscle meals. Variety is good.  If you find when serving meaty bones that stools r dry--- just add more meat. For instance, I would add some meat with rib bones. I cut groups of 3 or 4 ribs. You can serve ribs in larger pieces though.

Maybe others will suggest.

[raynebc]

Frog legs are another good bone in option.

[bare01]

Jun 10, 2019 7:39:33 GMT -5 abbeytheferret6 said:

Bone in meat (meaty bones)for a ferret will be bones with meat on them that a ferret can crush with their teeth.

chicken rib cage
chicken backs
chicken wings(usually not drumette part of wing nor legs)
rabbit rib cage (maybe other parts depending on size of the rabbit)
quail and other birds
squirrel
mice
rat
Cornish hen
guinea pig (Hare Today)
duck neck & turkey neck(may need to pound with hammer)
duck rib cage


Weight bearing bones(legs) of animals such as goat, sheep, ram, chicken are too dense---but you can use these meats  as muscle meals. Variety is good.  If you find when serving meaty bones that stools r dry--- just add more meat. For instance, I would add some meat with rib bones. I cut groups of 3 or 4 ribs. You can serve ribs in larger pieces though.

Maybe others will suggest.

Thank you for your reply.

I understood about bone-in meat.

And dangerously I was about to give him a bone-in meat that I should not give.

I am familiar with the raw food of my little sister (dog Jack Russell Terrier) living with my parents, but I am still a beginner when it comes to ferret raw food.



What about fish?

Since Japan is an island country, it seems that if it is fish, it can prepare various kinds.

For example, Sanma, salmon, sardines, mackerel etc ...

Does the fish go into bone-in meat? Or muscle meals?

I want to give him the whole fish.

But fish bones are a bit scary. . .



I should be able to prepare various types of muscle meals.

However, it seems difficult to prepare various kinds of bone-in meat.

These are the ones that I can prepare.

・Turkey's neck

・ Rib bones
・ Chicken wings

Is nutrition balance all right?

[bare01]

Jun 10, 2019 11:37:10 GMT -5 raynebc said:

Frog legs are another good bone in option.

Thank you for your reply.

Frog legs! ! I am not confident to touch it.

I will leave it to my husband ('_')

Where are you selling it?

[raynebc]

Not many places have them where I live, but I buy frog legs from the seafood section in a particular grocery store. I don't expect handling them is much different from any other raw meat, although frog legs have lots of water in them. They usually have a thin layer of ice on them, so when I am prepping a pair of frog legs, I use my cleaver to scrape the ice off. If I don't do this, melting ice piles up on my cutting board and it makes it much messier to deal with.

[bare01]

Jun 11, 2019 12:09:30 GMT -5 raynebc said:

Not many places have them where I live, but I buy frog legs from the seafood section in a particular grocery store. I don't expect handling them is much different from any other raw meat, although frog legs have lots of water in them. They usually have a thin layer of ice on them, so when I am prepping a pair of frog legs, I use my cleaver to scrape the ice off. If I don't do this, melting ice piles up on my cutting board and it makes it much messier to deal with.

Thank you for telling me more.

I will try to find a shop that sells frog legs.

And I will give him that in the way you taught me (^^♪

[Heather]

Fish can be fed in limited amounts (bones included). Small whole fish would be better than larger fish as the larger fish are often contaminated with various toxins. Also if you're going to feed more fish you will have to try and feed thiaminase free fish to help prevent vit B loss. The smaller fish don't get to collect as many toxins (mercury). Fish is fed in a limited amount for 2 reasons, 1...they wouldn't naturally eat it except to scavenge. Most ferrets are not great swimmers (not like otters or mink) so their intake of fish would be the occasional meal they would come across that had either died and washe1d up or was killed by another predator. 2. If you feed more fish, ferrets take on a weird fishy scent to go along with their already ferrety odour. This have even less appeal than their usual musky scent. It is suggested to not feed fish more than once or twice a month. Awhile ago, we did have someone from Japan who had asked if they could feed fish more often as it was easier to feed. They didn't stay long enough for us to find out just what the end result was of feeding more frequently. I believe they were going to try and feed once a week
ciao

[bare01]

Jun 13, 2019 10:34:41 GMT -5 Heather said:

Fish can be fed in limited amounts (bones included). Small whole fish would be better than larger fish as the larger fish are often contaminated with various toxins. Also if you're going to feed more fish you will have to try and feed thiaminase free fish to help prevent vit B loss. The smaller fish don't get to collect as many toxins (mercury). Fish is fed in a limited amount for 2 reasons, 1...they wouldn't naturally eat it except to scavenge. Most ferrets are not great swimmers (not like otters or mink) so their intake of fish would be the occasional meal they would come across that had either died and washe1d up or was killed by another predator. 2. If you feed more fish, ferrets take on a weird fishy scent to go along with their already ferrety odour. This have even less appeal than their usual musky scent. It is suggested to not feed fish more than once or twice a month. Awhile ago, we did have someone from Japan who had asked if they could feed fish more often as it was easier to feed. They didn't stay long enough for us to find out just what the end result was of feeding more frequently. I believe they were going to try and feed once a week
ciao

Sorry for the late reply.

Thank you for letting me know in detail.

Certainly nowadays we are increasingly concerned about fish contamination.

And I don't like that his smell is awful. LOL

I would like to give him fish for a special occasion meal.

At that time, I give fresh and good fish.

It is a little difficult to get the meat with bones, but I will look for it in a nearby store.

I'll ask again if I come up with something I don't understand, so I'm glad if you answer again (^^)/~~~