Post by Heather on May 9, 2019 11:19:19 GMT -5
Back in the day, that's all they did with ferrets...cut them open and see what they find. Considering the results (often death) I had always wondered about that. At the time adrenalectomies were the course of the day. Lupron was considered secondary and DES wasn't even in the picture. Generally, what was done they would go in, remove an adrenal gland (only the very best removed the right because it's usually too close to the vena cava). So, that meant sometimes they just opened them up and had a look around. There was nothing they could do they'd close them up again and tell you to use Lupron. They would usually check the pancreas for tumours while they were in there. I lost a lovely wee sprite to that surgery, because it was considered "vogue" and the way to go. I'm not trying to scare you, I've had ferrets go under the knife and come out of it fine, but ferrets do not do great under anaesthetic and you have to be very cautious. Removal of the adrenal gland is a waste of time...why? because in 6 months, a year at most 2 years...you're once again treating for adrenal. That's why the DES is so good. My vet will not do an adrenalectomy, she claims it's a general waste of time and the clients good money. The Tennessee panel is another waste of time and money and your vet knows this.
I really dislike vets who get all defensive when you question their logic. If it makes sense, then they should be able to defend it, especially against a bunch of "know it alls" like us . My vets and I have wonderful discussions. On some aspects we don't agree but generally we all come around to a consensus. I do not appreciate someone who counters my theory with I'm educated and you're a dummy so you have to listen. That's what they're saying. The treatments being suggested are a good 10 to 15 yrs old. They need to update. As far as the timing of the DES....that was done by experimentation by us "dummies" Our vets saw and understood our logic and our questions and listened. When we waited for the 9 month time line or for symptoms, the disease appeared to be accelerated. For 2 weeks after the DES it was like we were watching the adrenal on time lapse. If we renewed before symptoms at 6 months, there was no acceleration of the disease and we got to keep our ferrets longer. If we waited and followed the recommended protocol we got 2 yrs after diagnosis. Usually, 2 implants, maybe a third. Treating this way we're seeing 4 and 5 yrs after diagnosis. To me that follows the logic that the disease was progressing without symptoms when the implant starts to wane. Just some thoughts for you. Don't feel bad that your vet felt threatened. That's her problem not yours
ciao
I really dislike vets who get all defensive when you question their logic. If it makes sense, then they should be able to defend it, especially against a bunch of "know it alls" like us . My vets and I have wonderful discussions. On some aspects we don't agree but generally we all come around to a consensus. I do not appreciate someone who counters my theory with I'm educated and you're a dummy so you have to listen. That's what they're saying. The treatments being suggested are a good 10 to 15 yrs old. They need to update. As far as the timing of the DES....that was done by experimentation by us "dummies" Our vets saw and understood our logic and our questions and listened. When we waited for the 9 month time line or for symptoms, the disease appeared to be accelerated. For 2 weeks after the DES it was like we were watching the adrenal on time lapse. If we renewed before symptoms at 6 months, there was no acceleration of the disease and we got to keep our ferrets longer. If we waited and followed the recommended protocol we got 2 yrs after diagnosis. Usually, 2 implants, maybe a third. Treating this way we're seeing 4 and 5 yrs after diagnosis. To me that follows the logic that the disease was progressing without symptoms when the implant starts to wane. Just some thoughts for you. Don't feel bad that your vet felt threatened. That's her problem not yours
ciao