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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2011 20:56:42 GMT -5
she wont touch the lamb. acts like i'm trying to feed her poison. i've tried mixing it with the turkey soup she was eating, no go. tried mixin it with more pumpkin, no go. help! I'm really at a loss as to what to do for her.
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Post by Heather on Feb 4, 2011 23:19:41 GMT -5
You mentioned that while on antibiotics her stools are normal....as soon as they're out of her system she's back to runny stools....that sounds to me that there might be a bacteria, parasitic or viral issue. There are a couple of issues that manifest themselves as loose stools (bacteria infections if I remember correctly). They are very difficult to nail down (they will actually result in a negative bacterial screening but are actually there) persistence and testing is the only way to locate them or deciding that this is what it is and using a strong antibiotic. ciao
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2011 4:37:16 GMT -5
Yes the stools came up negative. So how else to test for it? I dont want to keep runny back to the vet when they can't find anything. We did two rounds of antibiotics, but you are thinking a stronger one?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2011 11:46:57 GMT -5
That's what I was thinking. There must be a reason for her stools getting better on the antibiotics. Have you tried any freeze dried food? The bacterial load is usually lower than regular raw, and it seems to help with upset tummies. My girls always have very formed, soft stools on freeze dried. Maybe you could feed that until you figure out what's really wrong. Just so she doesn't get dehydrated from so much fluid loss.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2011 14:09:39 GMT -5
The only freeze dried that i have access too is liver, lung, and trachea. I've wanted to get my own machine but dont have the $$ for it right now.
I agree it's weird, even my mentor here is a little confused by this, which is why i'm posting out here, in hopes someone else will have a suggestion that cracks the puzzle. Thanks.
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Post by katt on Feb 5, 2011 16:11:56 GMT -5
Koda won't touch lamb anymore either. Did you try a lamb soup? Also is there any way for you to get access to goat? It is similar to lamb but I think it tastes different. What else do you have access to? Really all you need right now is ONE protein source that is not in her current diet (or at least not routine in her diet). Once you have that you can feed her just that and try to stabilize her, then experiment with other foods.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2011 19:56:25 GMT -5
At the moment the only ground things I have are chicken, turkey, lamb and beef. The lovely little girlie on top of all this is also a very picky eater (well when it comes to raw food, giver her anything else she's all over it ). She also has not progressed past the ground mush stage, even though zeke who started at same time is not on to full bone in meats. sigh. yes it was soup, blended up lamb, bone meal pumpkin water. thats it.
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Post by Heather on Feb 5, 2011 20:13:34 GMT -5
I'm really beginning to wonder about the whole lamb thing . My guys after years of eating it will not touch it. Nor will the cats I had put it down to it being a bit dry this time but I just opened a whole new batch and they've all turned their noses up at it again. Anyway, back to the problem at hand. Is it possible that this might be a giardiasis infection. The reason why I ask, is that clinical lab findings are often normal. Seemingly they have to be looking specifically for this type of protozoal. It would be expected that the stools would improve while on antibiotics but because it's not the specific medication that is needed it will not kill the problem. Hence, once the fuzz is once again off medication the clinical signs would resume. ciao
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2011 20:45:22 GMT -5
I suppose anything is possible. However when i looked this up it meantioned it's highly contagious, so I would expect the others to get it. ALthough Zeke had loose stools for a few days, he's been fine ever since and Neka has not had any issue. As well, we have two dogs they have nothing , neither to any humans in the house. ? so does that decrease the chance that this is giardiasis? We've been dealing with this about a month now, plenty of time for it to have been passed on. Which is also why i'm thinking it's somehting that is only bothering her, like a food sensitivity, because everyone else is healthy, eating, pooping energy etc.
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Post by Sherry on Feb 5, 2011 21:51:39 GMT -5
Don't count on the contagious part of it. I had a cat with fe-luke. Which is highly contagious, as I found out much later on. Our other cat ate out of the same dishes, used the same liter box, etc. She never contracted it. Some just seem to have a more natural immunity than others.
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Post by Heather on Feb 5, 2011 23:30:19 GMT -5
I've found this a couple of times now where highly contagious virus have been picked up and yet certain fuzzes don't get the diseases. I had a very aggressive upper respiratory infection go through the business. At the time I was full with 18 ferrets and I was treating 12 for infections. The other 6 never got it. My vet just shrugged, she kept asking me do they have it yet, they should be coming down with it anytime (horrible thing was...picked it up at the vet's in the first place ) ciao
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2011 0:19:35 GMT -5
Keep us updated - it sounds like it could be giardiasis. It's definitely something to look into.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2011 5:01:30 GMT -5
so to find out for sure it`s another stool sample test asking them to test specifically for this? is that correct?
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Post by Heather on Feb 6, 2011 16:04:47 GMT -5
I"m guessing by this article...yes. ciao
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2011 16:23:38 GMT -5
From what I've read, giardia is very difficult to confirm. You have to catch the cysts in the proper stage, or they won't appear in the stool. Treatment is usually antibiotics and a wormer.
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