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Post by Sherry on Feb 11, 2018 8:58:01 GMT -5
If you use it as a lure, get the smallest container of heavy whipping cream. You can freeze by the tbsp so it doesn't go bad. Make one soup half liver, half kidney. Make another soup half heart, 1/4 liver 1/4 kidney.
When you try to feed the half liver half kidney that is where you will stir in a tbsp cream. This is very short term to get them used to the kidney taste only. As they accept it the cream will be phased out entirely.
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Post by olenka on Feb 11, 2018 11:02:04 GMT -5
Thank you! Will try that later. They are eating chicken now. Milky has diarrhia since this morning. He is pooping out almost water and is not eating, even treats. When I gave him a treat, he rushed out to the closet to hide it.
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Post by Sherry on Feb 12, 2018 7:06:16 GMT -5
It sounds like vetting time for him.
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Post by olenka on Feb 12, 2018 13:22:42 GMT -5
Milky is fine now - normal poop, eating as usual, playing a lot. He had that loose stool only once. (all of them have been vetted several days before I started the switch)
Since Milky was sick, I fed them just chicken. Will try mixing kidney/chicken/liver soup with heavy cream today.
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Post by olenka on Feb 12, 2018 19:03:01 GMT -5
Ruby ate 2 tee spoons of kidney/liver/chicken soup with heavy cream! Thank you for your advice!!!
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Post by olenka on Feb 13, 2018 7:54:13 GMT -5
Ruby had another 2 tee spoons of kidney/liver/chicken soup with heavy cream last night. After that I gave them cornish hen wings and neck. They ate pretty much all of it leaving shoulder bones.
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Post by olenka on Feb 13, 2018 8:02:22 GMT -5
Sherry, I have a question: Ruby's poop is always light brown, almost yellow. My ferrets eat pretty much same thing. So, they boys poop out whatever they eat, but not Ruby. Is it normal?
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Post by Sherry on Feb 13, 2018 8:06:36 GMT -5
It will vary per ferret  With the liver/kidney if you DO use a bit of cream, you don't need to add regular meat to it. And if you add regular meat(half meat, half liver/kidney) the taste isn't nearly as strong. I use it as a last resort lure when nothing else has worked. The great thing is you should be able to decrease the amount by a few drops every time you feed it If you ARE using another meat to get them eating it also decrease the amount of that meat every time you feed the liver/kidney. For right now, try feeding one meal heart a week(puree if need be), one meal liver/kidney(add a bit of the cream and hand feed), and then one meal half heart, half liver/kidney. Work the rest of the meals around those in the week. We are going to start working toward balance right now. |
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Post by olenka on Feb 13, 2018 15:07:20 GMT -5
Thank you, Sherry! Will do!
They eat whole chicken hearts already. So, I am assuming that they would eat veal hearts.
Ruby keeps putting weight on. Now she is a little bit over 800 grams. She was only 710 when we started a switch. The boys lost something like 1 oz each. It is hard to tell exactly since they would not stay still for more then 3 seconds. They climb out of scale:) Their weight loss does not worry me because they were fat. Milky was drugging his belly on a floor. Choco was just chubby.
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Post by Sherry on Feb 14, 2018 8:24:14 GMT -5
Don't count on them recognizing veal heart  I got chicken(which they loved at the time) from a different store that used a different supplier. Shall we say it was NOT a hit  Same for duck. They ADORE the duck I get from one store, will NOT touch the duck from a different supplier It is coming on time for spring weight loss, so don't be too suprised if both appetites and weights start on a down turn. |
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Post by olenka on Feb 14, 2018 13:31:24 GMT -5
For right now, try feeding one meal heart a week(puree if need be), one meal liver/kidney(add a bit of the cream and hand feed), and then one meal half heart, half liver/kidney. Work the rest of the meals around those in the week. We are going to start working toward balance right now. How about chicken gizzards? May I replace one kidney meal by gizzards? |
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Post by Sherry on Feb 15, 2018 9:35:54 GMT -5
Gizzard is a muscle. Kidney is an organ. It is a fine balance for their diet tbh. They can definitely have gizzards, but they cannot replace organ any more than they could replace bone. If you can find brain, reproductive organs, etc THAT can be used in place of kidney. But only organ can replace organ.
7-9 meals consumable bone
3-4 meals muscle meats[at least 1.5 of which NEEDS to be heart (heart should be about 10% of the total diet)]
1.5 meals of approx 2oz liver and 2oz other organ.(This can change over time depending on how much your ferret eats, but is a good starting point. Total should be about 10% of weekly diet)
Monday am: edible bone in meat
Monday pm: edible bone in meat (or muscle)
Tuesday am: edible bone in meat
Tuesday pm: muscle meat
Wednesday am: edible bone in meat
Wednesday pm: heart
Thursday am: edible bone in meat
Thursday pm: edible bone in meat (or muscle)
Friday am: edible bone in meat
Friday pm: ½ heart + ¼ liver + ¼ other organ
Saturday am: edible bone in meat
Saturday pm: muscle meat
Sunday am: edible bone in meat
Sunday pm: ½ liver + ½ other organ
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Post by olenka on Feb 16, 2018 18:54:48 GMT -5
Got it. Thank you!
They had chicken hearts for breakfast. I will feed them chicken wings tonight. Yes, they eat bones already:)
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Post by olenka on Feb 16, 2018 18:59:00 GMT -5
I've got veal lungs on ribs. Can I replace brain with it?
Brain is very hard to find. I could get duck or rabbit heads from hare-today. I did not order them yet because I was not sure if my ferrets could get through head bones.
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Post by Sherry on Feb 18, 2018 8:43:38 GMT -5
Lung is an excellent once in a while organ |
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